Ako nikada niste videli tužbu od 1 trilion $ evo jednistvene prilike :)
Takođe, kao extra dodatak evo spiska optuženih od koji su neki poznata imena i organizacije.
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SCHEDULE A - DEFENDANTS
1. DANIELE DAL BOSCO
2. THE OFFICE OF INTERNATIONAL TREASURY CONTROL
3. RAY C. DAM, individually, and as President ofOITC
4. DAVID A. SALE, individually, and as Deputy Chief of the Council for the Cabinet of
OITC
6. THE UNITED NATIONS
7. BAN KI-moon, individually, and as Secretary General of the UN
8. H.E. Ambassador CESARE MARIA RAGAGLINI, Individually, and as Permanent
Representative of the Italian Mission to the UN in New York
9. H.E. Ambassador LAURA MlRACHIAN, Individually, and as Permanent Representative
of the Italian Mission to the UN in Geneva
11. ITALIAN REPUBLIC
12. ITALIAN FINANCIAL POLICE
13. SILVIO BERLUSCONI, Former Prime Minister of Italy
14. THE WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM
15. WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM U.S.A., INC.
16. GIANCARLO BRUNO, individually, and as Head of the Banking Industry of WEF
Biće interesantno videti ko će se od medija usuditi da prvi objavi članak o ovome.
[Ovu poruku je menjao Ankalagon the Black dana 18.12.2011. u 15:32 GMT+1]
[ Milos911 @ 18.12.2011. 17:09 ] @
Zbog cega su tuzeni, kad si vec postavio temu mogao si da napises i razlog...
[ Ankalagon the Black @ 18.12.2011. 18:52 ] @
Tuženi su zbog finansijske prevare. Hteli su da otmu obveznice i unovče ih za sebe.
[ Ankalagon the Black @ 22.12.2011. 13:23 ] @
Na ovo se odnosi tužba.
[ Dexic @ 22.12.2011. 15:27 ] @
Uuu cim je Glenn Beck je uzeo pod jezik pisi zuta stampa :D
[ Java Beograd @ 22.12.2011. 18:50 ] @
Svako može da podnese tužbu. Plati sudsku taksu, i ostavi tužbu na pisarnici suda.
Onda sud tužbu pogleda, pregleda i prihvati je, pa odredi sudiju, ili je odbaci kao neosnovanu.
Dakle, ako platim sudsku taksu, ja mogu da tužim Dinkića i Krkobabića da su se zločinački udružili i smanjili nivo Dunava, pa stoga ja tražim odštetu od 100.000,00 EUR. I šta ? Mogu da se trsim u medijima da sam tužio, i da tražim navedenu svotu. A u stvari sam bacio pare za sudsku taksu.
[ Ankalagon the Black @ 22.12.2011. 21:55 ] @
Po tebi znači ne postoje nikakve procedure gde se optužnica uručuje optuženima, zakonski rok u kome moraju da se izjasne o optužnici, moguća kontratužba za klevetu, dalji koraci... ?
[ Milos911 @ 22.12.2011. 22:27 ] @
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Ankalagon the Black: Po tebi znači ne postoje nikakve procedure gde se optužnica uručuje optuženima, zakonski rok u kome moraju da se izjasne o optužnici, moguća kontratužba za klevetu, dalji koraci... ?
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Java Beograd: Svako može da podnese tužbu. Plati sudsku taksu, i ostavi tužbu na pisarnici suda.
Onda sud tužbu pogleda, pregleda i prihvati je, pa odredi sudiju, ili je odbaci kao neosnovanu.
Glava sluzi za jos nesto osim za sisanje...
[ Java Beograd @ 23.12.2011. 06:57 ] @
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Ankalagon the Black: Po tebi znači ne postoje nikakve procedure gde se optužnica uručuje optuženima, zakonski rok u kome moraju da se izjasne o optužnici, moguća kontratužba za klevetu, dalji koraci... ?
I ti stvarno misliš da bi Dinkić i Krkobabić trebali da se izjašnjavaju "Da li su se zločinački udružilii i smanjili nivo Dunava ?". I to u nekom zakonskom roku ?!? A šta ako se ne izjasne ?
A šta ako ja napišem 200 tužbi za svakog od članova vlade pojedinačno. Presavijem tabak, napišem tužbu, platim sudsku taksu i ostavim na pisarnici. Jednog tužim da je kriv što nije pao sneg, a drugog tužim da je kriv što je opalo lišće. I onda bi oni po ceo dan trebalo da se izjašnjavaju da li su krivi ili nisu.
[ Ankalagon the Black @ 23.12.2011. 10:27 ] @
Ovi što su sastvili optužnicu tvrde da imaju dokaze za navode u njoj. Videćemo verovatno na proleće šta će i da li će nešto biti od ovoga. U međuvremenu, će biti interesantno videti da li će neko od medija imati cohones da objavi članak o ovome, uključujući tu i domaće medije.
[ Milos911 @ 23.12.2011. 11:31 ] @
Svi domaci mediji tipa kurira ce sigurno 'imati', ozbiljni mozda provuku u fazonu 'vidi budala'...
[ Ankalagon the Black @ 23.12.2011. 11:47 ] @
Neka provuku kako hoće. Samo neka objave da tako nešto postoji. Ako ništa drugo kao bizarni kuriozitet. Kao npr. neke optužnice tipa John Doe protiv Boga.
[ Odin D. @ 23.12.2011. 13:48 ] @
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Ankalagon the Black: Neka provuku kako hoće. Samo neka objave da tako nešto postoji. Ako ništa drugo kao bizarni kuriozitet. Kao npr. neke optužnice tipa John Doe protiv Boga.
A zasto mislis da bi neko trebao da objavljuje kojekakve budalastine i price budaletina sa kojekakakvih strana svijeta, ili zasto bi to uopste trebalo biti od neke opste koristi?
Kome je do humora neka kupuje "Osisani jez", "Vicoteku" i sl., a ja necu da se pare od mog poreza ili od TV pretplate koju ne placam trose na izvjestavanje o budalastinama i budalastim poslovima.
[ Ankalagon the Black @ 23.12.2011. 16:06 ] @
Ma ko tebe pita šta ti 'oćeš. Trebalo bi da je od koristi jer su dvojca koji su nosili te obeznice pušteni na slobodu jer "nisu prekršili nijedan zakon". Međutim obveznice su im oduzete. Kako je to logično? Kada nekoga uhvate sa falsifikovanim novcem onda ide u zatvor. Pravo pitanje je ko je i zbog čega podneo tužbu tim povodom u Njujorškom sudu?
U linku koji sam postavio može da se pročita da je već određen sudija Holwell.
Advokat koji vodi slučaj:
William H. Mulligan, Jr.
Bleakley Platt & Schmidt, LLP
One North Lexington Avenue
White Plains, NY 10601
(914) 949-2700
Sta tebe ima da se ticu americki sud, americke pare i americke obveznice i od kakve bi to koristi trebalo da bude srbijanskim poreskim obveznicima koji finansiraju stampanje drzavnih novina, radio i televiziju?!
Zausjasio si na tu Ameriku i po citav dan samo tripujes sta su ONI duzni TEBI da objavljuju o svemircima, zavjerama, berzanskim malverzacijama, letu na mjesec, tajnim operacijama i tome slicno, kao da si ti u najmanju ruku Burek Obama ili Kennedy licno, ili kao da je ista od toga tvojim parama postizavano.
[ 3way @ 23.12.2011. 23:12 ] @
Kladim se da ce 'neobjavljivanje' ovoga da bude krunski dokaz da je stvar zataskana.
Ovo je jedino mesto na internetu gde je clanak napisao neko ko je novinar po profesiji. Kao sto ime sajta govori, bave se izvestavanjem o parnicama.
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Courthouse News Service is a nationwide news service for lawyers and the news media. Based in Pasadena, California, Courthouse News focuses on civil litigation, from the date of filing through the appellate level. Unlike other Internet-based publishers that simply aggregate information prepared by other content providers, Courthouse News publishes its own original news content prepared by its staff of reporters and editors based across the country.
Ono sto je meni interesantno jeste da ovu vest nisu obradile ni jedne novine i televizija na svetu, koliko znam, osim ovog CourtHouse News-a. Mislim na pominjane optuznice u vezi ovih obveznica a ne o samom slucaju u Italiji.
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Sta tebe ima da se ticu americki sud, americke pare i americke obveznice i od kakve bi to koristi trebalo da bude srbijanskim poreskim obveznicima koji finansiraju stampanje drzavnih novina, radio i televiziju?!
Da li osecas posledice svetske ekonomske krize? Ona sigurno nije nastala u Srbiji niti u tvom selu a eto i ti je osecas na svojoj kozi na direktan ili posredan nacin. Ima ona cuvena izreka da u zivotu mora samo da se umre i da se plate porezi. Za poreze i nije tako sigurno. Tako da ako te nesto ne interesuje ne moras da pratis. Ali lepo od tebe sto si svratio ovde. Znaci da te ipak na neki nacin interesuje.
[ Odin D. @ 24.12.2011. 16:25 ] @
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Ankalagon the Black: Da li osecas posledice svetske ekonomske krize? Ona sigurno nije nastala u Srbiji niti u tvom selu a eto i ti je osecas na svojoj kozi na direktan ili posredan nacin. Ima ona cuvena izreka da u zivotu mora samo da se umre i da se plate porezi. Za poreze i nije tako sigurno. Tako da ako te nesto ne interesuje ne moras da pratis. Ali lepo od tebe sto si svratio ovde. Znaci da te ipak na neki nacin interesuje.
To sto su se Srbi uhvatili svojom voljom u svjetsko ekonomsko kolo ne znaci da je neko iz tog svijeta duzan da pred njima pere svoj prljav ves.
Mogli su ostati fino u samoizolaciji kao S. Koreja, pa ih svjetska ekonomska kriza ne bi pogadjala. Niko ih nije bio po usima da se petljaju sa ostatkom svijeta, pa im sad on kao nesto duguje.
To sto ja osjecam posljedice krize na svojoj kozi je moj izbor, jer sam odlucio da je i pored krize prijatnije zivjeti u modernom svijetu, nego u kamenom dobu, i nikakvi Amerikanci me na to nisu tjerali, niti sam ja njima ista placao za taj luksuz, pa da sad imam pravo od njih da trazim da mi polazu racune za ono sto rade.
A siguran sam da ni tebi ne duguju apsolutno nista.
[ Ankalagon the Black @ 24.12.2011. 18:15 ] @
Sve dok se nalaziš na planeti Zemlji sve što se na njoj dogadja je povezano sa tvojim preživljavanjem. I tvoje familije u budućnosti, deca unuci i tako to.
Primer: Gomila ljudi u Severnoj Koreji nema šta da jede. Ti se verovatno pitaš šta to tebe briga? Pokojni KJI i njegova porodica su bili spremni i na nuklearni rat. A zbog vežbi koje se inače održavaju svake godine.
Gde ćeš bolji način kontrole populacije nego da ih držiš pod stresom zbog pretnji stranog neprijatelja?
E sad, da nije bilo velikog diplomatskog napora veoma lako je moglo da se desi da se stvari otrgnu kontroli i da ponovo započne rat između dve Koreje. Možda i uz upotrebu nuklearnog oružija. Znači dovoljan je i jedan ludak na pogrešnom mestu pa da posledice osete svi na planeti.
Tako da je važno da li u Severnoj Koreji imaju šta da jedu. Jer ako su srećni i zadovoljni onda režim neće imati toliku potrebu da napravi neki idiotizam da bi mogao da ih kontroliše a iz primarne potrebe za svojim sopstvenim održanjem.
Sve je povezano. Tebe može ništa da ne interesuje šta se dogadja van tvog sela ali to ne znači tvoj život i život tvoje sadašnje familije i potomaka ne zavisi od onoga što se događa spolja.
Mislim da je svima jasno da je sadašnji sistem na planeti neodrživ. Energetski - jer nestaje nafte. Ekonomski - jer bez reforme globalnog finansijskog sistema neće se izbeći mogućnost da se ovakve krize ponavljaju i u budućnosti. Ekološki - sa ovakvim tempom uništavanja životne sredine uništavamo sami sebe i to veoma osetno. Ljudi na planeti je sve više a pijaće vode sve manje.
Konvergencijom ovih i drugih kritičnih faktora imamo situaciju gde je budućnost ljudske civilizacije veoma neizvesna. Nema tog matematičkog tj. simulacionog modela koji može da predvidi šta će se dogoditi kada svi ovi faktori počnu da dostižu kritične vrednosti i to približno u isto vreme. U narednih 10-20 godina ćemo ili rešiti ove probleme ili će oni rešiti nas.
Edgar Cayce (/ˈkeɪsiː/; March 18, 1877 – January 3, 1945) was an American psychic who allegedly had the ability to give answers to questions on subjects such as healing or Atlantis while in a hypnotic trance.
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Počnite da čitate :)
[ Ankalagon the Black @ 15.01.2012. 09:17 ] @
Jedna od referenci iz članka koja pokazuje "nezavisnost i objektivnost" medija. Kako se to uklapa u veću sliku? Pročitajte sami u linku koji sam dao :)
The first top-to-bottom audit of the Federal Reserve uncovered eye-popping new details about how the U.S. provided a whopping $16 trillion in secret loans to bail out American and foreign banks and businesses during the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. An amendment by Sen. Bernie Sanders to the Wall Street reform law passed one year ago this week directed the Government Accountability Office to conduct the study. "As a result of this audit, we now know that the Federal Reserve provided more than $16 trillion in total financial assistance to some of the largest financial institutions and corporations in the United States and throughout the world," said Sanders. "This is a clear case of socialism for the rich and rugged, you're-on-your-own individualism for everyone else."
Among the investigation's key findings is that the Fed unilaterally provided trillions of dollars in financial assistance to foreign banks and corporations from South Korea to Scotland, according to the GAO report. "No agency of the United States government should be allowed to bailout a foreign bank or corporation without the direct approval of Congress and the president," Sanders said.
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A more detailed GAO investigation into potential conflicts of interest at the Fed is due on Oct. 18, but Sanders said one thing already is abundantly clear. "The Federal Reserve must be reformed to serve the needs of working families, not just CEOs on Wall Street."
Svako ko želi može na osnovu ovih zvaničnih podataka da proveri sledeći deo iz članka koji sam linkovao.
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Here is a small part of the letter where Congressman Alan Grayson spells it all out to John Hively, “The World’s Most Accurate Economic Forecaster Since 1989”.
CONGRESSMAN GRAYSON: I wouldn’t want anyone to think that I’m dramatizing or amplifying what this GAO report says, so I’m just going to list some of my favorite parts, by page number.
Page 131 – The total lending for the Fed’s “broad-based emergency programs” was $16,115,000,000,000. That’s right, more than $16 trillion. The four largest recipients, Citigroup, Morgan Stanley, Merrill Lynch and Bank of America, received more than a trillion dollars each.
The 5th largest recipient was Barclays PLC. The 8th was the Royal Bank of Scotland Group, PLC. The 9th was Deutsche Bank AG. The 10th was UBS AG. These four institutions each got between a quarter of a trillion and a trillion dollars. None of them is an American bank.
Page 205 – Separate and apart from these “broad-based emergency program” loans were another $10,057,000,000,000 in “currency swaps.” In the “currency swaps,” the Fed handed dollars to foreign central banks, no strings attached, to fund bailouts in other countries….
These currency swaps and the “broad-based emergency program” loans, together, totaled more than $26 trillion. That’s almost $100,000 for every man, woman, and child in America.
That’s an amount equal to more than seven years of federal spending — on the military, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, interest on the debt, and everything else. And around twice America’s total GNP….
If the Fed had extended $26 trillion in credit to the American people instead of Wall Street, would there be 24 million Americans today who can’t find a full-time job?
[ Odin D. @ 19.01.2012. 14:18 ] @
Aha... isto kao i Dzulijan, Okupiraju Volovi Street, Zeitgeist 1..99, i sl.
Evo samo sto nije...
Italian anti-mafia prosecutors said they seized a record $6 trillion of allegedly fake U.S. Treasury bonds, an amount that’s almost half of the U.S.’s public debt.
The bonds were found hidden in makeshift compartments of three safety deposit boxes in Zurich, the prosecutors from the southern city of Potenza said in an e-mailed statement. The Italian authorities arrested eight people in connection with the probe, dubbed “Operation Vulcanica,” the prosecutors said.
The U.S. embassy in Rome has examined the securities dated 1934, which had a nominal value of $1 billion apiece, they said in the statement. “Thanks to Italian authorities for the seizure of fictitious bonds for $6 trillion,” the embassy said in a message on Twitter.
The financial fraud uncovered by the Italian prosecutors in Potenza includes two checks issued through HSBC Holdings Plc (HSBA) in London for 205,000 pounds ($325,000), checks that weren’t backed by available funds, the prosecutors said. As part of the probe, fake bonds for $2 billion were also seized in Rome. The individuals involved were planning to buy plutonium from Nigerian sources, according to phone conversations monitored by the police.
The fraud posed “severe threats” to international financial stability, the prosecutors said in the statement. HSBC spokesman Patrick Humphris in London declined to comment when contacted by telephone. The U.S. Secret Service assisted the Italian authorities, spokesman Edwin Donovan said.
Money Laundering
Creating fake Treasuries is a “common scam, especially in Italy,” he said. The tipoff was the “astronomical” face value of each bond, he said. Fake bonds in high denominations are more common in Europe, where people are less familiar with the face value of U.S. Treasury bonds than in the U.S., he said.
Zurich’s public prosecutor’s office provided material to their Italian counterparts in Potenza in 2011, according to Corinne Bouvard, a spokeswoman for the senior public prosecutor’s office of the canton of Zurich. The Swiss part of the investigation ended on July 22, she said.
The Italian investigation initially focused on a Sicilian who was living in Potenza and was “already known for money laundering and exporting currency abroad,” according to the statement from the Potenza prosecutor’s office.
Phony U.S. securities have been seized in Italy before and there were at least three cases in 2009. Italian police seized phony U.S. Treasury bonds with a face value of $116 billion in August of 2009 and $134 billion of similar securities in June of that year.
The U.S. Secret Service averages about 100 cases a year related to bonds and other fictitious instruments.
Da rezimiramo:
Neko je u Cirihu u 3 sigurnosne kutije držao navodno lažne US državne obveznice, serije 1934, ukupne vrednosti $6 triliona.
US ambasada u Rimu je ispitala obveznice, koje su denominacije od po $1 bilion i zahvalili se Italijanima putem twittera. Twittera?! Wtf?!
8 uhapšenih je planiralo da kupi plutonijum od "nigerijskih izvora". Nigerijci prodaju plutonijum?
Navodno su napravili grešku kada su stavili prevelike iznose na obveznice. Zaista?! Jel ima neko nekakvo objašnjenje za ovo? Italijanska mafija pokušava od USA da uzme-naplati obveznice u vrednosti polovine nacionalnog duga. Ako je u nešto ovde teško poverovati to je da bi takva akcija ikada mogla da uspe. Mislim na to da se prevari USA. Kao nekome će da daju toliku basnoslovnu sumu novca?
Lažne državne obveznice SAD, u vrednosti šest hiljada milijardi dolara, zaplenjene u Švajcarskoj. Vrednost tih obveznica jednaka trećini američkog nacionalnog duga. Policija pronašla i falsifikovan Versajski ugovor.
[ Ankalagon the Black @ 20.02.2012. 20:39 ] @
[ Ankalagon the Black @ 20.02.2012. 21:22 ] @
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Lord James of Blackheath calls for an investigation in the House of Lords in London on February 16 2012, using evidence gathered by the White Hat organization on banking corruption to the tune of 16 trillion dollars.
seized more than $2 trillion in counterfeit U.S. Federal Reserve
bonds and arrested one suspect in the southern Philippines.
Police also showed reporters stacks of counterfeit Japanese yen and Argentine peso notes in various denominations, a few fake one-dollar bills and some other currencies seized Saturday.
Police and staff from the U.S. Embassy arrested a Filipino man in the southern city of Cagayan de Oro with the falsified currencies and U.S. bonds along with German and Argentine bonds — a total counterfeit haul of $2,157,044,400,000.
‘Very Good Quality’
The fakes were of "very good quality" but some of the bond denominations do not exist, said David Popp, a U.S. Treasury Department representative.
The U.S. bonds, totaling more $2 trillion, were in denominations ranging from tens of thousands of dollars to $500 million. The bonds of other countries were in denominations as small as $30.
Popp said the large bonds may have been meant for a major "lost treasure" scam.
"Very frequently these fraudsters weave a tale that there's these long-lost Federal Reserve bonds hidden away or found in a plane crash," Popp told a news conference.
The raid on the house also found two metal boxes from the U.S. Federal Reserve, said Nestor Gualberto, Philippine National Police superintendent.
Some Smuggled Out of the Country?
He said police charged Archie Mingoc with counterfeiting and were seeking five others. He said some of the bonds had been sold in the southern Philippines and that police were trying to discover whether others were smuggled out of the country.
"We know they were selling some bonds to very curious buyers — businessmen in the area," Gualberto said. "We're still ascertaining where they're coming from."
The raid follows two other large-scale seizures in Mindanao in December 1999 and February 2000, when a combined $110 billion in "good quality" fake bonds and currency were found.
Cagayan de Oro, 500 miles southeast of Manila, is in the southern region torn by at least three guerrilla uprisings.
Two Muslim separatist groups are fighting to carve homelands out of the region, while communist guerrillas are fighting to overthrow the government.
Strife in the poverty-stricken region also makes it home to kidnapping and other crime.
[ IT_DooX @ 20.02.2012. 21:42 ] @
Strasni su, navodno postoje cak i fabrike novca van SAD-a koje imaju dozvolu da stampaju novac u njihovo ime, naravno to su tajne kovacnice novca, sve se bojim da nije ovo jedna od njih...
[ Ankalagon the Black @ 20.02.2012. 21:47 ] @
Pitanje od trillion dolara :) :
Kome možeš da prodaš 8 trilliona dolara navodno lažnih obveznica (6+2 skoro zaplenjenih) a da pritom preživiš duže od 24h kada onaj kome si ih prodao sazna da nisu prave?
[ IT_DooX @ 20.02.2012. 21:50 ] @
Samo jednoj organizaciji,onoj koja je potrosila hiljade triliona,vise je potrosila nego sto je nastampano novca do sada,i to im apsolutno ne smeta, da li ce trositi samo dobru kopiju novca ili novac koji ne postoji isto im je. Federal Reserve Bank - najveca privatna banka na svetu :)
[ Ankalagon the Black @ 20.02.2012. 22:17 ] @
Dobro to je mesto gde bi se ove obveznice mogle unovčiti. Na obveznicama i piše Federal Reserve. Ako se pogledaju fotografije obveznica primetiće se da na njima takođe pišu reči: gold bullion, što znači da se za njih dobija zlato.
Ali kome prodati te obveznice po nekoj nižoj ceni pa da taj neko pokuša da ih unovči kod FED-a? A pri tome ostati živ duže od 24h kada taj koji je kupio obveznice shvati da ne može da ih unovči kod FED-a.
A ko ce to da u roku od 24h eliminise neku ekipu mafia-e (italijanske, ruske, mexicke), yakuza, triad-a?
Nije niko smeo da dira one ruse i ostale kad su valjali superdolare a ne ove...
Pogotovo sto je imbecilima koji kupe 1B$ bond (verovatno za par % vrednosti) bolje da se sakriju/upucaju nego da s tim izadju u javnost...
[ Ankalagon the Black @ 21.02.2012. 09:55 ] @
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A ko ce to da u roku od 24h eliminise neku ekipu mafia-e (italijanske, ruske, mexicke), yakuza, triad-a?
Za odgovarajuću sumu novca, verovatno bi bio dugačak red plaćenika i profesionalnih wetwork timova spremnih da odrade posao.
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Pogotovo sto je imbecilima koji kupe 1B$ bond (verovatno za par % vrednosti) bolje da se sakriju/upucaju nego da s tim izadju u javnost...
Pa nije baš da pošteni i naivni građani imaju toliko novca koje bi potrošili za tako egzotične investicije. Uostalom, ko je tu pominjao izlaženje u javnost.
Stavi se recimo u um tih koji pokušavaju nekom da zavaljaju parče papira za ogromne pare. I to ni manje ni više nego nekoliko trilliona. To je rang novca sa kojim barataju samo vlade nekih država, bankarske institucije i neki pojedinci i porodice čija se imena i imovinsko stanje ne pojavljuju ni na kakvim zvaničnim listama bogataša.
Nije dovoljno parče papira da bilo koga od takvih ubediš da to što imaš je autentično. Recimo, za njih nije nikakav problem da unajme eksperta koji će da proveri starost i originalnost papira na kome su odštampane obveznice, takođe eksperta da proveri starost i autentičnost kutija, koje možeš da vidiš na slikama, a u kojima se drže druge manje kutije u kojima direktno stoje obveznice. Ako bi se išta od toga pokazalo lažnim, potencijalni klijent nikako ne bi pristao na saradnju. A pritom bi verovatno bio iznerviran što su pokušali da ga prevare.
Takođe, ni to sve nije dovoljno. Potrebni su dalji dokazi da se obveznice mogu unovčiti. Znači, u kojoj banci i pod kojim specijalnim uslovima.
A takođe postavlja se i pitanje, zbog čega se na različitim mestima pojavljuju obveznice baš iz 1934 godine? Zašto baš ta godina?
Potrebno je barem 12 sati (znači jedno nedelju dana, deo po deo) da se polako pročitaju oni garganautski članci/online e-knjige što sam linkovao na početku, ali su vredni truda da bi se došlo do unikatnog opisa tajnog bankarskog sistema koji postoji. Takođe nedavni govor Lord James Blackheatha ukazije na postojanje ogromnih transakcija novca ($15T samo ka jednoj banci u V. Britaniji) o kojima se skoro ništa ne zna i ne raspravlja.
Okay so in closing we have to remember:
Blackheath has laid out a full report on his investigations and is asking parliment to step in and set up a committee to look into this.
Hardly anyone from parliament stayed to listen to him – wonder why.
Riyadi says he was scammed and did not take 500M for his 15T in Treasury Notes – Who would?
The Federal Reserve has 15T to loan on books from the Riyadi transfer so it does a loan to Barlcays Bank of London and the Royal bank of Scotland of London
Blackheath does some unearthing and produces original copies of documents supporting his claims of this money transfer.
Money could not have been transferred through IMF if guidelines were followed and Treasury is not aware of this kind of transfer yet receipts for this transfer are real.
No one seems to know where the money is but it is on the books an potentially undermining London’s banking system and being used as leverage for a payout – to who is the question – the Federal Reserve????
Some things to ponder. Just last week a CEO of Royal Bank of Scotland resigns. The IMF director was replaced by Christine Lagarde not long ago. Iran just stopped sales of oil to the UK. It is suggested that the UK and the Federal Reserve have a relationship deeper than a mother and a daughter. Put this together with the fact that this is just one of how many of these that have or are going on and you might now know why so many bankers are resigning. Fraud is being exposed and arrests are happening all over the globe as we speak……..
[ Wi-Fi @ 21.02.2012. 20:51 ] @
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Ankalagon the Black: Za odgovarajuću sumu novca, verovatno bi bio dugačak red plaćenika i profesionalnih wetwork timova spremnih da odrade posao.
A oni navedeni vec imaju desetine hiljada koji vec cekaju u redu...
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Ankalagon the Black: Pa nije baš da pošteni i naivni građani imaju toliko novca koje bi potrošili za tako egzotične investicije. Uostalom, ko je tu pominjao izlaženje u javnost.
Stavi se recimo u um tih koji pokušavaju nekom da zavaljaju parče papira za ogromne pare. I to ni manje ni više nego nekoliko trilliona. To je rang novca sa kojim barataju samo vlade nekih država, bankarske institucije i neki pojedinci i porodice čija se imena i imovinsko stanje ne pojavljuju ni na kakvim zvaničnim listama bogataša.
Nije dovoljno parče papira da bilo koga od takvih ubediš da to što imaš je autentično. Recimo, za njih nije nikakav problem da unajme eksperta koji će da proveri starost i originalnost papira na kome su odštampane obveznice, takođe eksperta da proveri starost i autentičnost kutija, koje možeš da vidiš na slikama, a u kojima se drže druge manje kutije u kojima direktno stoje obveznice. Ako bi se išta od toga pokazalo lažnim, potencijalni klijent nikako ne bi pristao na saradnju. A pritom bi verovatno bio iznerviran što su pokušali da ga prevare.
Takođe, ni to sve nije dovoljno. Potrebni su dalji dokazi da se obveznice mogu unovčiti. Znači, u kojoj banci i pod kojim specijalnim uslovima.
A takođe postavlja se i pitanje, zbog čega se na različitim mestima pojavljuju obveznice baš iz 1934 godine? Zašto baš ta godina?
Posteni i naivni ne, ali neposteni i alavi itekako. Jos ako 1B$ bond dobiju za 10-20-50 miliona, ma to se ne propusta.
Expertima se plati/zapreti, bankarima isto (osim ako bankari i sl. nisu i kupci).
Kakvo bre instant-unovcavanje, pa to i vrapci znaju da je skoro nemoguce i sa originalnim bond-ovima...
'34. se verovatno najlakse falsifikuje...
[ Igor Gajic @ 21.02.2012. 20:58 ] @
Cela ta prica jako smrdi, sama cinjenica da je u pitanju 6000 milijardi dolara, da su iz '34.
PA KO MOZE DA KUPI TOLIKE OBVEZNICE. Bil Gejts, Karlos, Voren Bafet ?!? Drzava? Koja drzava sada ima rezervi da kupi tolike obveznice. Rezerve Kine su 3 000 milijardi $.
Takodje, na obveznicama ima zanimljiv detalj:
NAPLATIVO U ZLATU
[ Wi-Fi @ 21.02.2012. 21:04 ] @
Odakle vam uopste ideja da se prodaju u paketu i za tu vrednost?
[ Igor Gajic @ 21.02.2012. 21:12 ] @
Sta ces da radis sa tim?
Da doneses sluzbeniku banke i da trazis dividende od obveznica? Da cekas i da naplatis u celosti ?
Jbt, da neko podigne stednju bednih par hiljada evra treba da prodje kroz provere i provere, a cifre sa kojima se ovde gadjaju su astronomske.
To je ~10% godisnjeg GDP-a cele planete, dakle celokupne vrednosti koja se kreira i koja predje iz ruke u ruku cele planete! I to sada, 2012. 1000 milijardi $ u 1934. godini je jako jako jako puno novca. Koliko? Pomnoziti sa 30 da bi se dobila vrednost u danasnjim dolarima, tj. da bi se uracunala inflacija za 80 godina.
[ Wi-Fi @ 21.02.2012. 21:33 ] @
Pa indijanci ce da cuvaju, ko sto bi radili i sa cash-om, drugi ce pokusati da plate nesto - opet isto kao sa cash-om. A banke/fondovi ce da odobre kredit i cuvaju/prodaju po vecoj ceni drugima za cash. Ili ce tim bond-ovima da garantuju za druge, koje ce dalje da obrcu...
Mogucnosti su neogranicene, a odgovornost prestaje cim promene vlasnika.
Pa svakodnevno se desavaju slicne prevare, sa laznim obveznicama, hipotekama, garancijama, i to u milionskim (dvocifrenim) iznosima, pa nikom nista...pa i kod nas ima, od par desetina hiljada € do par miliona, a smesni smo sto se tice finansija...
Btw. evo FED kaze da je steta samo za par godina 10 milijardi (to sto je poznato), znaci nista cudno.
Pametni ljudi znaju kada treba da se povuku. Idu teska vremena i elita to zna, i zavlaci se u rupe.(citiram Alex Jonesa)
[ Ankalagon the Black @ 22.02.2012. 18:56 ] @
Nadam se da je ovo samo početak. Reforma finansijskog sistema je odavno neophodna. Ako je istina ovo što Wilcock priča,a za sada ide nekako u tom pravcu da jeste, onda bi trebalo da uslede i sudski procesi za finansijske malverzacije na najvišem nivou.
[ Odin D. @ 22.02.2012. 19:11 ] @
Na svijetu ima toliko banaka i finansijskih institucija da se ovoliki broj otkaza, samootkaza, smjenjivanja, premjestanja, degradacija i unapredjenja i sl. rabota desava vjerovatno u jednom satu, ako ne i krace, i to samo npr. iz zdravstvenih razloga, a da ne spominjemo i sve ostale.
Neki tupson je malo zaguglao i uobicajeno stanje pokusao podmetnuti kao neko vanredno zbivanje.
Students of economic history are in for a treat. An official studying deep in the bowels of the US Treasury library has recently uncovered a prize of truly startling proportions – an 800 page plus transcript of the Bretton Woods conference in July 1944, the meeting of nations which established the foundations of today's international monetary system.
Bizarrely, this extraordiary manuscript has never before come to light. Professor Steve Hanke of John Hopkins University, whose former student it was who discovered the document, is now dashing to publish it in full in conjunction with his friend, Jacque de Larosiere. The first stage of the process, transcribing the type-written document into digital form is now complete, though it is not yet available. It's hoped eventually to produce a hard copy, book version.
All previous accounts of Bretton Woods have been second hand, with historians apparently completely unaware that a full, and one must presume faithful, transcript of proceedings, had been taken.
Those who have seen it say it is hard to point to any outright revelation about the talks, in which for Britain, the economist John Maynard Keynes was a leading player. But the level of intellectual debate is said to have been extraordinarily impressive, with exactly the same arguments as to voting rights and undue Western influence at the IMF and World Bank as exist today. The Indian delagation is said to have been particularly outspoken, despite the fact that India was still then a colony of the UK.
It was at Bretton Woods that Keynes identified one of the key problems at the heart of international economics – that imbalances in trade are next to impossible to resolve in a fixed exchange rate system without surplus countries accepting that they have as much of an obligation to do something about them as the offending deficit countries. As the eurozone is demonstrating all over again, the lessons have plainly not be learned.
Znači 68 godina se niko nije setio da se zapita o ovako bitnom dokumentu?! Barem oni kojima je ovo struka.
A March 31st deadline has been delivered to the committee of 300 by the gnostic “illuminati” faction
The group that claims to have started the American, French and Russian revolutions state they have issued a March 31st deadline to the committee of 300, according to their spokesman “Alexander Romanoff.” In addition, Prince Harry has been in touch with the group and has agreed to take over control of the British Royal family from Queen Elizabeth. There are signs, such as the resignation of over a dozen senior bankers and the announcement of a $15 trillion fraud in the UK and a $6 trillion fraud in Italy, that these warnings have been taken seriously. The Italian case is especially noticeable because one of the people arrested was former Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconni. In addition a meeting is scheduled this week between a White Dragon Society representative and a representatives of the dragon family in mainland Asia to discuss the creation of a meritocratically staffed economic planning agency.
It can also now be disclosed that Ireland, Portugal, Greece and Spain have all told the banks they are not going to pay back any of their loans because the loans were made illegally. This is one of the reasons why Moody’s downgraded 114 financial institutions including Citibank, Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, Deutschebank etc. These are the institutions that own the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Board is going to be shut down soon, according to Pentagon sources. In other words these countries are going to “default,” and for a change it will be the bankers and not the average citizens, who will pay the price.
The resignation of the heads of the World Bank, Credit Suisse, the Bank of India and “planned resignation” of the head of Goldman Sachs is just the beginning of a complete dismantling of the Khazarian banking monopoly. All money created through fraud is now going to be deleted from the global financial computer systems, according to officials involved in the take-down.
The $6 trillion fraud case in Italy is noteworthy because it is the one of the first such cases major corporate propaganda media outlets have reported worldwide. Italian newspapers have also now started reporting on the Neil Keenan lawsuit against the Davos World Forum, Berlusconi, the UN etc. accusing them of a $1 trillion theft. The arrest of 8 people is a further concrete sign of action being taken against the P2 Freemason lodge. This means that people who were hitherto above the law and above institutions like the Vatican and the UN are no longer immune from arrest.
The announcement in the UK Upper House by Lord Blackheath that $15 trillion had been stolen from a member of the “Indian-Chinese” royal family by Federal Reserve Board Chairman Ben Bernanke, US Treasury secretary Timothy Geithner and “Yusuke Horiguchi”(we are making enquiries about this individual), is a another sign of big change. The most interesting aspect of the Upper House testimony was the reference to a “Lord Sassoon.” The Sassoons are one of the families that profited from both the Opium wars and the colonization of Japan and it is interesting to see their name finally appear in the spotlight. Lord Sassoon has, as the testimony makes clear, already committed perjury in relation to the $15 trillion case. He is expected to be arrested and questioned soon.
In the US, as well change continues under the surface. The pentagon has already decided that a major purge of Khazarian Satanist influence and control of corporations, banks and professional organizations will take place. Among the organizations expected to experience high profile arrests are the American Medical Association, the American Dental Association, the Psychiatric and Psychology Associations, the Bar Association, the chambers of commerce and of course the Washington D.C. beltway.
Particular attention is going to be directed at the Pharmaceutical and chemical companies as well as satanic corporations like Microsoft and Monsanto, according to the Pentagon sources.
Rahm Emmanuel, Karl Rove, Paul Wolfowitz, Donald Rumsfeld, J. Rockefeller, the Bushes and the various “Neocons,” are also due for arrest, according to multiple sources. The proof of these claims of course, can only be made if these promised arrests actually take place. Until then skepticism remains the order of the day.
In Japan there is more credible evidence of change. The top power brokers in Japan have decided that a revolution will take place. They are pushing for Osaka Major Toru Hashimoto to be the leader of the new regime in this country. It is particularly noteworthy that two bitter, but extremely influential, rivals among the power-brokers both support Hashimoto. The Zionist flunkies are also trying to co-opt Hashimoto and make him one of their tools. This will not be allowed to happen.
Ruling Democratic Party of Japan power-brokers Ichiro Ozawa (a Rockefeller servant) and former Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama (a Freemason working for European royal families) will be bringing a large group of MP’s to China in March in search for financial and other support. It has already been concluded they will return from this trip empty-handed.
There is much more this writer knows but has been asked to remain silent about. However, there will be proof and detail from this week’s meetings available in next week’s report.
Čim Crnogorci u junu počnu pregovore o pristupanju EU, u Srbiji će odmah morati da počne žestok obračun sa visokom korupcijom i kriminalom! To za Kurir poručuje Jelko Kacin, izvestilac Evropskog parlamenta za Srbiju, čime potvrđuje pisanje našeg lista da će glavni uslov za pregovore sa EU biti hapšenje političara i tajkuna umešanih u kriminal!
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U izjavi za Kurir ovi hakeri pozvali su građane da se aktivno uključe u borbu protiv političara, tajkuna, bankara i njima sličnih.
- Dosta nam je vaše bahatosti, nesposobnosti i samoljublja. Evolucija Srbije je počela. Mi štitimo građane od države, radnike od poslodavaca, poslodavce od banaka, 99 odsto građana od onog jednog procenta - kažu Anonimusi i dodaju da će tek početi sa ozbiljnim obaranjem sajtova.
Prema njihovim rečima, najveći problem u Srbiji je nedostatak volje da se stvari pomere s mrtve tačke:
Interesantna koincidencija. Sa vrha i odozdo u isto vreme stiže ista poruka. Nije da imam nešto protiv, ali je nekako čudno.
