[ Braxi @ 04.02.2018. 23:19 ] @
da li bi bio bolji ili gori ? |
[ Braxi @ 04.02.2018. 23:19 ] @
[ Bradzorf012 @ 04.02.2018. 23:24 ] @
Da.
[ nemamstan @ 04.02.2018. 23:26 ] @
Da nema Amerikanaca
- ne bi bilo Bila Gejtsa - ne bi bilo DOS-a - ne bi bilo Windowsa - ne bi bilo MSC - ne bi bilo mnogo toga još i ja bih bio bez novaca. [ Braxi @ 04.02.2018. 23:27 ] @
Bradzorf012 konciznost je pola mentalnog zdravlja.
[ Braxi @ 04.02.2018. 23:30 ] @
Citat: nemamstan: Da nema Amerikanaca - ne bi bilo Bila Gejtsa - ne bi bilo DOS-a - ne bi bilo Windowsa - ne bi bilo MSC - ne bi bilo mnogo toga još i ja bih bio bez novaca. ja ne bih imao iPhone ! Nego razmisljam koja bi im bila alternativa. Recimo zamisli Vucka da nema Amerike ? Ili recimo svet u kome vladaju Rusija i Kina. Strahota bozija. [ Bradzorf012 @ 04.02.2018. 23:42 ] @
Citat: Braxi: Bradzorf012 konciznost je pola mentalnog zdravlja. Na onoj drugoj temi si me pitao, kako me ne mrzi da pišem onoliko opširne postove i da nemaš volje da ih čitaš, pa reko da te poslušam. Nego, znaš li možda šta sam hteo da kažem onim da? Svet bi bio bolji bez amerikanaca ili bi bio bolji bez amerikanaca? [ Braxi @ 04.02.2018. 23:44 ] @
shvatio sam da te bas briga.
[ Bradzorf012 @ 04.02.2018. 23:52 ] @
Čekaj, u čemu je razlika između bolji i bolji?
[ Shadowed @ 04.02.2018. 23:58 ] @
Sta podrazumevas pod svetom bez Amerikanaca?
Da odjednom nestanu? Da ih nikad nije ni bilo? Da su u nekom (kom?) trenutku u proslosti nestali? Da li bi, ako nikad nije ni bilo Amerikanaca u sadasnjem smislu, starosedeoci sa podrucja USA bili Amerikanci? Da li definicija sveta bez Amerikanaca podrazumeva da i njih nema? [ Boris Tadić @ 05.02.2018. 06:31 ] @
Kao što je New York bio New Amsterdam.
Kao što je Australija bila New Holland. Tako bi i Rusija preko noći postala New Murica. Još otkad koriste pola američkih imena, pogotovo na severu. [ belbeg @ 05.02.2018. 08:09 ] @
Da nema amerike bila bi neka druga zemlja, kako je to i bilo kroz istoriju.
Ko više priča o Rimskoj imperiji? Tako i USA kada padne na 3-4 mesto, a ide ka tome, prestaće i priča o njima. Verovatno će priča biti o Kini, Indiji, Rusiji....? Ničija do zore nije gorela! [ Braxi @ 05.02.2018. 08:16 ] @
Citat: belbeg: Da nema amerike bila bi neka druga zemlja, kako je to i bilo kroz istoriju. Ko više priča o Rimskoj imperiji? Tako i USA kada padne na 3-4 mesto, a ide ka tome, prestaće i priča o njima. Verovatno će priča biti o Kini, Indiji, Rusiji....? Ničija do zore nije gorela! vrlo tesko ce Ameriku Rusija zameniti. Vrlo tesko. Rusija je sila u dekadenciji... Da li Rusija sa svojih slabasnih 142 miliona moze da zameni Americkog dzina. I sa GDP 10x manjim od americkog ? Vrlo tesko. Pored toga ruska meka moc je neuporedivo manja od americke. Rusija jednostavno ne uziva nikakav ugled u inostranstvu, slicno kao i Kina, a o Indiji da i ne govorim. Mozda su te zemlje popularne u Srbiji, ali u Srbiji je popularna i Kuba, Koreja, Gadafi, Sadam i dr.... [ Braxi @ 05.02.2018. 08:20 ] @
Citat: Shadowed: Sta podrazumevas pod svetom bez Amerikanaca? Da odjednom nestanu? Da ih nikad nije ni bilo? Da su u nekom (kom?) trenutku u proslosti nestali? Da li bi, ako nikad nije ni bilo Amerikanaca u sadasnjem smislu, starosedeoci sa podrucja USA bili Amerikanci? Da li definicija sveta bez Amerikanaca podrazumeva da i njih nema? pitanje jeste hipoteticko, ali ne moras ga tako bukvalno shvatiti. Moze Amerika da ode i u neku vrstu samoizolacije i da se znacajnije povuce iz svetksih poslova. Tipa: Rusi upadnu u Estoniju, Amerika nista... Ili recimo otkaze poslove Kini, ovi se vrate na bicikle i mokasine, 300g pirinca dnevno... [ Java Beograd @ 05.02.2018. 08:24 ] @
Uzgred, Amerikanci su jedan fin, religiozan i vredan narod. I više oni kukaju na svoju vladu nego ceo svet zajedno na njihovu vladu.
[ belbeg @ 05.02.2018. 08:25 ] @
Braxi,
Ljudstvo danas nije presudno nego oružje i tehnika. Ako posmatraš samo sa aspekta vojne sile, odavno i USA i Rusija raspolažu hidrogenskim bombama (ili nečim i jačim) koje su dovoljnje da unište sve tako da pisanje o broju stanovnika nema ama baš nikakvog smisla. Nadam se da će razum pobediti i da će se sporovi rešavati, kao i posle svakog rata, za stolom. Ljudi koji rezonuju kao ti dovode do konflikta. [ Braxi @ 05.02.2018. 08:29 ] @
misljenja sam da neka nova sila mora da ima daleko vise od oruzja da bi je svet sledio. I Pakistan je nuklearna sila, jedino ne znam kome bi oni bili uzor ? Mozda ventualno bangaldeshu ?!
[ belbeg @ 05.02.2018. 08:34 ] @
Citat: Braxi: misljenja sam da neka nova sila mora da ima daleko vise od oruzja da bi je svet sledio. I Pakistan je nuklearna sila, jedino ne znam kome bi oni bili uzor ? Mozda ventualno bangaldeshu ?! "Kome zakon leži u topuzu tragovi mu smrde nečovještvom", davno napisa Njegoš! [ payge @ 05.02.2018. 12:12 ] @
1775–1783: American Revolutionary War: an armed struggle for secession from the British Empire by the Thirteen Colonies that would subsequently become the United States.
1776–1777: Second Cherokee War: a series of armed conflicts when the Cherokee fought to prevent the encroachment of American settlers into eastern Tennessee and eastern Kentucky; under British rule, this land had been preserved as native territory. 1776–1794: Cherokee–American wars: a continuation of the Second Cherokee War that included a larger number of native tribes attempt to halt the expansion of settlers into Kentucky and Tennessee 1785–1795: Northwest Indian War: a series of battles with various native tribes in present-day Ohio. The goal of the campaign was to affirm American sovereignty over the region and to create increased opportunities for settlement. 1786–1787: Shays' Rebellion: a Western Massachusetts debtor's revolt over a credit squeeze that had financially devastated many farmers. The federal government was fiscally unable to raise an army to assist the state militia in combating the uprising; the weakness of the national government bolstered the arguments in favor of replacing the Articles of Confederation with an updated governmental framework. 1791–1794: Whiskey Rebellion: a series of protests against the institution of a federal tax on the distillation of spirits as a revenue source for repaying the nation's war bonds. The revolt was centered upon southwestern Pennsylvania, although violence occurred throughout the Trans-Appalachian region. 1798–1800: Quasi-War: an undeclared naval war with France over American default on its war debt. An additional mitigating factor was the continuation of American trade with Britain, with whom their former French allies were at war. This contest included land actions, such as that in the Dominican Republic city of Puerto Plata, where U.S. Marines captured a French vessel under the guns of the forts. Congress authorized military action through a series of statutes.[1] 1799–1800: Fries' Rebellion: a string of protests against the enactment of new real estate taxes to pay for the Quasi-War. Hostilities were concentrated in the communities of the Pennsylvania Dutch. 1800–1809[edit] 1801–1805: First Barbary War: a series of naval battles in the Mediterranean against the Kingdom of Tripoli, a quasi-independent state of the Ottoman Empire. Action was in response to the capture of numerous American ships by the infamous Barbary pirates. The federal government rejected the Tripolitan request for an annual tribute to guarantee safe passage, and an American naval blockade ensued. After the seizure of the USS Philadelphia, American forces under William Eaton invaded coastal cities. A peace treaty resulted in the payment of a ransom for the return of captured American soldiers and only temporarily eased hostilities.[1] 1806: Action in Spanish Mexico: The platoon under Captain Zebulon Pike invaded Spanish territory at the headwaters of the Rio Grande on orders from General James Wilkinson. He was made prisoner without resistance at a fort he constructed in present-day Colorado, taken to Mexico, and later released after seizure of his papers.[RL30172] 1806–1810: Action in the Gulf of Mexico: American gunboats operated from New Orleans against Spanish and French privateers off the Mississippi Delta, chiefly under Captain John Shaw and Master Commandant David Porter.[1] 1810–1819[edit] 1810: West Florida (Spanish territory): Governor William C. C. Claiborne of Louisiana, on orders of President James Madison, occupied with troops territory in dispute east of the Mississippi as far as the Pearl River, later the eastern boundary of Louisiana. He was authorized to seize as far east as the Perdido River.[RL30172] 1812: Amelia Island and other parts of east Florida, then under Spain: Temporary possession was authorized by President James Madison and by Congress, to prevent occupation by any other power; but possession was obtained by General George Mathews in so irregular a manner that his measures were disavowed by the President.[RL30172] 1812–1815: War of 1812: On June 18, 1812, the United States declared war against the United Kingdom. Among the issues leading to the war were British impressment of American sailors into the Royal Navy, interception of neutral ships and blockades of the United States during British hostilities with France. [RL30172] 1815:Battle of New Orleans: On January 15, 1815, General Andrew Jackson went to New Orleans to stop the British from attacking them from the back. They hide and start shooting the British and win,even though the war of 1812 already ended. But it did boost Americans pride. 1813: West Florida (Spanish territory): On authority given by Congress, General Wilkinson seized Mobile Bay in April with 600 soldiers. A small Spanish garrison gave way. Thus U.S. troops advanced into disputed territory to the Perdido River, as projected in 1810. No fighting.[RL30172] 1813–1814: Marquesas Islands (French Polynesia): U.S. forces built a fort on the island of Nuku Hiva to protect three prize ships which had been captured from the British.[RL30172] 1814: Spanish Florida: General Andrew Jackson took Pensacola and drove out the British forces.[RL30172] 1814–1825: Caribbean: Engagements between pirates and American ships or squadrons took place repeatedly especially ashore and offshore about Cuba, Puerto Rico, Santo Domingo, and Yucatán. Three thousand pirate attacks on merchantmen were reported between 1815 and 1823. In 1822, Commodore James Biddle employed a squadron of two frigates, four sloops of war, two brigs, four schooners, and two gunboats in the West Indies.[RL30172] 1815: Algiers: The Second Barbary War was declared against the United States by the Dey of Algiers of the Barbary states, an act not reciprocated by the United States. Congress did authorize a military expedition by statute. A large fleet under Captain Stephen Decatur attacked Algiers and obtained indemnities.[RL30172] 1815: Tripoli: After securing an agreement from Algiers, Captain Decatur demonstrated with his squadron at Tunis and Tripoli, where he secured indemnities for offenses during the War of 1812.[RL30172] 1816: Spanish Florida: United States forces destroyed Negro Fort, which harbored fugitive slaves making raids into United States territory.[RL30172] 1816–1818: Spanish Florida – First Seminole War: The Seminole Indians, whose area was a haven for escaped slaves and border ruffians, were attacked by troops under General Jackson and General Edmund P. Gaines and pursued into northern Florida. Spanish posts were attacked and occupied, British citizens executed. In 1819 the Floridas were ceded to the United States.[RL30172] 1817: Amelia Island (Spanish territory off Florida): Under orders of President James Monroe, United States forces landed and expelled a group of smugglers, adventurers, and freebooters. This episode in Florida's history became known as the Amelia Island Affair.[RL30172] 1818: Oregon: The USS Ontario dispatched from Washington, which made a landing at the mouth of the Columbia River to assert US claims. Britain had conceded sovereignty but Russia and Spain asserted claims to the area.[RL30172] Subsequently, American and British claims to the Oregon Country were resolved with the Oregon Treaty of 1846.[RL30172] 1820–1829[edit] 1820–1823: Africa: Naval units raided the slave traffic pursuant to the 1819 act of Congress. [RL30172][Slave Traffic] 1822: Cuba: United States naval forces suppressing piracy landed on the northwest coast of Cuba and burned a pirate station.[RL30172] 1823: Cuba: Brief landings in pursuit of pirates occurred April 8 near Escondido; April 16 near Cayo Blanco; July 11 at Siquapa Bay; July 21 at Cape Cruz; and October 23 at Camrioca.[RL30172] 1824: Cuba: In October the USS Porpoise landed sailors near Matanzas in pursuit of pirates. This was during the cruise authorized in 1822.[RL30172] 1824: Puerto Rico (Spanish territory): Commodore David Porter with a landing party attacked the town of Fajardo which had sheltered pirates and insulted American naval officers. He landed with 200 men in November and forced an apology. Commodore Porter was later court-martialed for overstepping his powers.[RL30172] 1825: Cuba: In March cooperating American and British forces landed at Sagua La Grande to capture pirates.[RL30172] 1827: Greece:[2] In October and November, landing parties hunted pirates on the Mediterranean islands of Argentiere (Kimolos), Myconos, and Andros.[RL30172] 1830–1839[edit] 1831: Falkland Islands: Captain Silas Duncan of the USS Lexington attacked, looted and burned Puerto Soledad (then under the control of the United Provinces of the Rio de la Plata). This was in response to the capture of three American sailing vessels which were detained after ignoring orders to stop depredation of local fishing resources without permission from the United Provinces government.[RL30172] 1832: Attack on Quallah Battoo: Sumatra, Indonesia – February 6 to 9, U.S. forces under Commodore John Downes aboard the frigate USS Potomac landed and stormed a fort to punish natives of the town of Quallah Battoo for plundering the American cargo ship Friendship.[RL30172] 1833: Argentina: October 31 to November 15, A force was sent ashore at Buenos Aires to protect the interests of the United States and other countries during an insurrection.[RL30172] 1835–1836: Peru: December 10, 1835 to January 24, 1836 and August 31 to December 7, 1836, Marines protected American interests in Callao and Lima during an attempted revolution.[RL30172] 1835–1842: Florida Territory: United States Navy supports the Army's efforts at quelling uprisings and attacks on civilians by Seminole Indians. Government's efforts to relocate the Seminoles to west of the Mississippi are hindered by 7 years of war. 1838: The Caroline affair on Navy Island, Canada: After the failure of the Upper Canada Rebellion of 1837 favoring Canadian democracy and independence from the British Empire; William Lyon Mackenzie and his rebels fled to Navy Island where they declared the Republic of Canada. American sympathizers sent supplies on the SS Caroline, which was intercepted by the British and set ablaze, after killing one American. It was falsely reported that dozens of Americans were killed as they were trapped on board, and American forces retaliated by burning a British steamer while it was in U.S. waters. 1838–1839: Sumatra (Indonesia): December 24, 1838 to January 4, 1839, A naval force landed to punish natives of the towns of Quallah Battoo and Muckie (Mukki) for depredations on American shipping.[RL30172] 1840–1849[edit] 1840: Fiji Islands: In July, naval forces landed to punish natives for attacking American exploring and surveying parties.[RL30172] 1841: McKean Island (Drummond Island/Taputenea), Gilbert Islands (Kingsmill Group), Pacific Ocean: A naval party landed to avenge the murder of a seaman by the natives.[RL30172] 1841: Samoa: On February 24, a naval party landed and burned towns after the murder of an American seaman on Upolu.[RL30172] 1842: Mexico: Commodore Thomas ap Catesby Jones, in command of a squadron long cruising off California, occupied Monterey, California, on October 19, believing war had come. He discovered peace, withdrew, and saluted. A similar incident occurred a week later at San Diego.[RL30172] 1843: China: Sailors and marines from the St. Louis were landed after a clash between Americans and Chinese at the trading post in Canton.[RL30172] 1843: Africa: From November 29 to December 16, four United States vessels demonstrated and landed various parties (one of 200 marines and sailors) to discourage piracy and the slave trade along the Ivory Coast, and to punish attacks by the natives on American seamen and shipping.[RL30172] 1844: Mexico: President Tyler deployed U.S. forces to protect Texas against Mexico, pending Senate approval of a treaty of annexation (which was later rejected). He defended his action against a Senate resolution of inquiry.[RL30172] 1846–1848: Mexican–American War: On May 13, 1846, the United States recognized the existence of a state of war with Mexico. After the annexation of Texas in 1845, the United States and Mexico failed to resolve a boundary dispute and President Polk said that it was necessary to deploy forces in Mexico to meet a threatened invasion. The war ended with the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, signed on February 2, 1848. The treaty gave the U.S. undisputed control of Texas, established the U.S.–Mexican border of the Rio Grande, and ceded to the United States the present-day states of California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, Wyoming, and parts of Colorado. In return, Mexico received US$18,250,000 (equivalent to about $516,000,000 in 2017)[3] — less than half the amount the U.S. had attempted to offer Mexico for the land before the opening of hostilities.[RL30172] 1849: Smyrna (İzmir, Turkey): In July, a naval force gained release of an American seized by Austrian officials.[RL30172] 1850–1859[edit] 1851: Ottoman Empire: After a massacre of foreigners (including Americans) at Jaffa in January, a demonstration by the Mediterranean Squadron was ordered along the Turkish (Levantine) coast.[RL30172] 1851: Johanna Island (modern Anjouan, east of Africa): In August, forces from the U.S. sloop-of-war Dale exacted redress for the unlawful imprisonment of the captain of an American whaling brig.[RL30172] 1852–1853: Argentina: February 3 to 12, 1852; September 17, 1852 to April 1853: Marines were landed and maintained in Buenos Aires to protect American interests during a revolution.[RL30172] 1853: Nicaragua: March 11 to 13, US forces landed to protect American lives and interests during political disturbances.[RL30172] 1853–1854: Japan: Commodore Matthew Perry and his expedition made a display of force leading to the "opening of Japan".[RL30172] 1853–1854: Ryūkyū and Bonin Islands (Japan): Commodore Matthew Perry on three visits before going to Japan and while waiting for a reply from Japan made a naval demonstration, landing marines twice, and secured a coaling concession from the ruler of Naha on Okinawa; he also demonstrated in the Bonin Islands with the purpose of securing facilities for commerce.[RL30172] 1854: China: April 4 to June 17, American and English ships landed forces to protect American interests in and near Shanghai during Chinese civil strife.[RL30172] 1854: Nicaragua: On July 9–15, naval forces bombarded and burned San Juan del Norte (Greytown) to avenge an insult to the American Minister to Nicaragua.[RL30172] 1855: China: On May 19–21, U.S. forces protected American interests in Shanghai and, from August 3 to 5 fought pirates near Hong Kong.[RL30172] 1855: Fiji Islands: From September 12 to November 4, an American naval force landed to seek reparations for attacks on American residents and seamen.[RL30172] 1855: Uruguay: On November 25–29, United States and European naval forces landed to protect American interests during an attempted revolution in Montevideo.[RL30172] 1856: Panama, Republic of New Grenada: On September 19–22, U.S. forces landed to protect American interests during an insurrection.[RL30172] 1856: China: From October 22 to December 6, U.S. forces landed to protect American interests at Canton during hostilities between the British and the Chinese, and to avenge an assault upon an unarmed boat displaying the United States flag.[RL30172] 1857–1858: Utah War: The Utah War was a dispute between Mormon settlers in Utah Territory and the United States federal government. The Mormons and Washington each sought control over the government of the territory, with the national government victorious. The confrontation between the Mormon militia and the U.S. Army involved some destruction of property, but no actual battles between the contending military forces. 1857: Nicaragua: April to May, November to December. In May, Commander Charles Henry Davis of the United States Navy, with some marines, received the surrender of William Walker, self-proclaimed president of Nicaragua, who was losing control of the country to forces financed by his former business partner, Cornelius Vanderbilt, and protected his men from the retaliation of native allies who had been fighting Walker. In November and December of the same year United States vessels USS Saratoga, USS Wabash, and Fulton opposed another attempt of William Walker on Nicaragua. Commodore Hiram Paulding's act of landing marines and compelling the removal of Walker to the United States, was tacitly disavowed by Secretary of State Lewis Cass, and Paulding was forced into retirement.[RL30172] 1858: Uruguay: From January 2 to 27, forces from two United States warships landed to protect American property during a revolution in Montevideo.[RL30172] 1858: Fiji Islands: From October 6 to 16, a marine expedition with the USS Vandalia killed 14 natives and burned 115 huts in retaliation for the murder of two American citizens at Waya.[RL30172] [Vandalia 1] [Vandalia 2] 1858–1859: Ottoman Empire: The Secretary of State requested a display of naval force along the Levant after a massacre of Americans at Jaffa and mistreatment elsewhere "to remind the authorities (of the Ottoman Empire) of the power of the United States."[RL30172] 1859: Paraguay: Congress authorized a naval squadron to seek redress for an attack on a naval vessel in the Paraná River during 1855. Apologies were made after a large display of force.[RL30172] 1859: Mexico: Two hundred United States soldiers crossed the Rio Grande in pursuit of the Mexican nationalist Juan Cortina.[RL30172] [1859 Mexico] 1859: China: From July 31 to August 2, a naval force landed to protect American interests in Shanghai.[RL30172] 1860–1869[edit] 1860: Angola, Portuguese West Africa: On March 1, American residents at Kissembo called upon American and British ships to protect lives and property during problems with natives.[RL30172] 1860: Colombia, Bay of Panama: From September 27 to October 8, naval forces landed to protect American interests during a revolution.[RL30172] 1861–1865: American Civil War: A major war between the United States (the Union) and eleven Southern states which declared that they had a right to secession and formed the Confederate States of America. 1863: Japan: July 16, Naval battle of Shimonoseki: The USS Wyoming retaliated against a firing on the American vessel Pembroke at Shimonoseki.[RL30172] 1864: Japan: From July 14 to August 3, naval forces protected the United States Minister to Japan when he visited Yedo to negotiate concerning some American claims against Japan, and to make his negotiations easier by impressing the Japanese with American power.[RL30172] 1864: Japan: From September 4 to 14, naval forces of the United States, Great Britain, France, and the Netherlands compelled Japan and the Prince of Nagato in particular to permit the Straits of Shimonoseki to be used by foreign shipping in accordance with treaties already signed.[RL30172] 1865: Panama: On March 9 and 10, US forces protected the lives and property of American residents during a revolution.[RL30172] 1865–1877: Southern United States – Reconstruction following the American Civil War: The South is divided into five Union occupation districts under the Reconstruction Act. 1866: Mexico: To protect American residents, General Sedgwick and 100 men in November obtained surrender of Matamoros, on the border state of Tamaulipas. After three days he was ordered by US Government to withdraw. His act was repudiated by the President.[RL30172] 1866: China: From June 20 to July 7, US forces punished an assault on the American consul at Newchwang.[RL30172] 1867: Nicaragua: Marines occupied Managua and Leon. 1867: Formosa (island of Taiwan): On June 13, a naval force landed and burned a number of huts to punish the murder of the crew of a wrecked American vessel. 1868: Japan (Osaka, Hiolo, Nagasaki, Yokohama, and Negata): February 4 to 8, April 4 to May 12, June 12 and 13. US forces were landed to protect American interests during a civil war (Boshin War) in Japan.[RL30172] 1868: Uruguay: On February 7–8, and 19–26, US forces protected foreign residents and the customhouse during an insurrection at Montevideo.[RL30172] 1868: Colombia: In April, US forces protected passengers and treasure in transit at Aspinwall during the absence of local police or troops on the occasion of the death of the President of Colombia.[RL30172] 1870–1879[edit] 1870: Battle of Boca Teacapan: On June 17 and 18, US forces destroyed the pirate ship Forward, which had been run aground about 40 miles up the Teacapan Estuary in Mexico.[RL30172] 1870: Kingdom of Hawaii: On September 21, US forces placed the American flag at half-mast upon the death of Queen Kalama, when the American consul at Honolulu would not assume responsibility for so doing.[RL30172] 1872: Korea: Shinmiyangyo – June 10 to 12, A US naval force attacked and captured five forts to force stalled negotiations on trade agreements and to punish natives for depredations on Americans, particularly for executing the crew of the General Sherman and burning the schooner (which in turn happened because the crew had stolen food and kidnapped a Korean official), and for later firing on other American small boats taking soundings up the Salee River. [RL30172] 1873: Colombia (Bay of Panama): May 7 to 22, September 23 to October 9. U.S. forces protected American interests during hostilities between local groups over control of the government of the State of Panama.[RL30172] 1873–1896: Mexico: United States troops crossed the Mexican border repeatedly in pursuit of cattle thieves and other brigands.[RL30172] 1874: Honolulu Courthouse Riot: From February 12 to 20, detachments from American vessels were landed to protect the interests of Americans living in the Kingdom of Hawaii during the coronation of a new king.[RL30172] 1876: Mexico: On May 18, an American force was landed to police the town of Matamoros, Mexico, temporarily while it was without other government.[RL30172] 1878: Lincoln County, New Mexico: On July 15–19, during the Battle of Lincoln (1878) (part of the Lincoln County War) 150 cavalry-men arrived from Fort Stanton, under the command of Lieutenant George Smith (later Colonel Nathan Dudley) to assist the Murphy-Dolan Faction in attacking the Lincoln County Regulators vigilante group. 5 dead, 8–28 wounded.[citation needed] 1880–1889[edit] 1882: Egyptian Expedition: July 14 to 18, American forces landed to protect American interests during warfare between British and Egyptians and looting of the city of Alexandria by Arabs.[RL30172] 1885: Panama (Colón): January 18 and 19, US forces were used to guard the valuables in transit over the Panama Railroad, and the safes and vaults of the company during revolutionary activity. In March, April, and May in the cities of Colón and Panama, the forces helped reestablish freedom of transit during revolutionary activity (see Burning of Colón).[RL30172] 1888: Korea: June, A naval force was sent ashore to protect American residents in Seoul during unsettled political conditions, when an outbreak of the populace was expected.[RL30172] 1888: Haiti: December 20, A display of force persuaded the Haitian Government to give up an American steamer which had been seized on the charge of breach of blockade.[RL30172] 1888–1889: Samoan crisis; First Samoan Civil War; Second Samoan Civil War: November 14, 1888 to March 20, 1889, US forces were landed to protect American citizens and the consulate during a native civil war.[RL30172] 1889: Kingdom of Hawaii: July 30 and 31, US forces at Honolulu protected the interests of Americans living in Hawaii during an American led revolution.[RL30172] 1890–1899[edit] 1890: Argentina: A naval party landed to protect US consulate and legation in Buenos Aires.[RL30172] 1890: South Dakota: On December 29, soldiers of the US Army 7th Cavalry killed 178 Sioux Amerindians following an incident over a disarmament-inspection at a Lakota Sioux encampment near Wounded Knee Creek. 89 other Amerinds were injured, 150 were reported missing; Army casualties were 25 killed, 39 wounded.[citation needed] 1891: Haiti: US forces sought to protect American lives and property on Navassa Island.[RL30172] 1891: Bering Sea Anti-Poaching Operations: July 2 to October 5, Naval forces sought to stop seal poaching.[RL30172] 1891: Itata Incident: US and European naval forces intercepted and detained a shipment of arms sent to the Congressionalist forces in the Chilean Civil War. 1891: Chile: August 28 to 30, US forces protected the American consulate and the women and children who had taken refuge in it during a revolution in Valparaíso.[RL30172] 1892: Homestead Strike: On July 6, striking miners attacked Pinkerton National Detective Agency agents attempting to break the strike by bringing non-union workers to the mine. 6,000 Pennsylvania state militiamen were sent to reinstate law and order. 16 dead, 27–47 wounded 1892: Wyoming: Johnson County War April 11 to 13, U.S. Cavalry sent to break up a gun battle at the TA Ranch. 1893: Overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom: January 16 to April 1, Marines landed in Hawaii, ostensibly to protect American lives and property, but many believed actually to promote a provisional government under Sanford B. Dole. This action was disavowed by President Cleveland, and the United States apologized in 1993.[RL30172] 1894: Nicaragua: July 6 to August 7, US forces sought to protect American interests at Bluefields following a revolution.[RL30172] 1894–1895: China: Marines were stationed at Tientsin and penetrated to Peking for protection purposes during the First Sino-Japanese War.[RL30172] 1894–1895: China: A naval vessel was beached and used as a fort at Newchwang for protection of American nationals.[RL30172] 1894–1896: Korea: July 24, 1894 to April 3, 1896, A guard of marines was sent to protect the American legation and American lives and interests at Seoul during and following the Sino-Japanese War.[RL30172] 1895: Colombia: March 8 and 9, US forces protected American interests during an attack on the town of Bocas del Toro by a bandit chieftain.[RL30172] 1896: Nicaragua: May 2 to 4, US forces protected American interests in Corinto during political unrest.[RL30172] 1898: Nicaragua: February 7 and 8, US forces protected American lives and property at San Juan del Sur.[RL30172] 1898: Spanish–American War: On April 25, 1898, the United States declared war with Spain, ostensibly aligned with Cuban rebels. The war followed a Cuban insurrection, the Cuban War of Independence against Spanish rule and the sinking of the USS Maine in the harbor at Havana.[RL30172] 1898–1899: Samoa: Second Samoan Civil War, a conflict that reached a head in 1898 when Germany, the United Kingdom, and the United States were locked in dispute over who should have control over the Samoan island chain. 1898–1899: China: November 5, 1898 to March 15, 1899, US forces provided a guard for the legation at Peking and the consulate at Tientsin during contest between the Dowager Empress and her son.[RL30172] 1899: Nicaragua: American and British naval forces were landed to protect national interests at San Juan del Norte, February 22 to March 5, and at Bluefields a few weeks later in connection with the insurrection of Gen. Juan P. Reyes.[RL30172] 1899–1913: Philippine Islands: Philippine–American War, US forces protected American interests following the war with Spain, defeating Filipino revolutionaries seeking immediate national independence.[RL30172] The U.S. government declared the "insurgency" officially over in 1902, when the Filipino leadership generally accepted American rule. Skirmishes between government troops and armed groups lasted until 1913, and some historians consider these unofficial extensions of the war.[4] 1900–1909[edit] 1900: China: From May 24 to September 28, Boxer Rebellion. American troops participated in operations to protect foreign lives during the Boxer uprising, particularly at Peking. For many years after this experience a permanent legation guard was maintained in Peking, and was strengthened at times as trouble threatened.[RL30172] 1901: Colombia (State of Panama): From November 20 to December 4. (See: Separation of Panama from Colombia) US forces protected American property on the Isthmus and kept transit lines open during serious revolutionary disturbances.[RL30172] 1902: Colombia: From April 16 to 23, US forces protected American lives and property at Bocas del Toro during a civil war.[RL30172] 1902: Colombia (State of Panama): From September 17 to November 18, the United States placed armed guards on all trains crossing the Isthmus to keep the railroad line open, and stationed ships on both sides of Panama to prevent the landing of Colombian troops.[RL30172] 1903: Honduras: From March 23 to 30 or 31, US forces protected the American consulate and the steamship wharf at Puerto Cortes during a period of revolutionary activity.[RL30172] 1903: Dominican Republic: From March 30 to April 21, a detachment of marines was landed to protect American interests in the city of Santo Domingo during a revolutionary outbreak.[RL30172] 1903: Syria: From September 7 to 12, US forces protected the American consulate in Beirut when a local Muslim uprising was feared.[RL30172] 1903–1904: Abyssinia (Ethiopia): Twenty-five Marines were sent to Abyssinia to protect the US Consul General while he negotiated a treaty.[RL30172] 1903–1914: Panama: US forces sought to protect American interests and lives during and following the revolution for independence from Colombia over construction of the Isthmian Canal. With brief intermissions, United States Marines were stationed on the Isthmus from November 4, 1903 to January 21, 1914 to guard American interests.[RL30172] 1904: Dominican Republic: From January 2 to February 11, American and British naval forces established an area in which no fighting would be allowed and protected American interests in Puerto Plata and Sosua and Santo Domingo City during revolutionary fighting.[RL30172] 1904: Tangier, Morocco: "We want either Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead." A squadron demonstrated to force release of a kidnapped American. Marines were landed to protect the consul general.[RL30172] 1904: Panama: From November 17 to 24, U.S. forces protected American lives and property at Ancon at the time of a threatened insurrection.[RL30172] 1904–1905: Korea: From January 5, 1904 to November 11, 1905, a guard of Marines was sent to protect the American legation in Seoul during the Russo-Japanese War.[RL30172] 1906–1909: Cuba: From September 1906 to January 23, 1909, US forces sought to protect interests and re-establish a government after revolutionary activity.[RL30172] 1907: Honduras: From March 18 to June 8, to protect American interests during a war between Honduras and Nicaragua, troops were stationed in Trujillo, Ceiba, Puerto Cortes, San Pedro Sula, Laguna and Choloma.[RL30172] 1910–1919[edit] 1910: Nicaragua: From May 19 to September 4, Occupation of Nicaragua. U.S. forces protected American interests at Bluefields.[RL30172] 1911: Honduras: On January 26, American naval detachments were landed to protect American lives and interests during a civil war in Honduras.[RL30172] 1911: China: As the Tongmenghui-led Xinhai Revolution approached, in October an ensign and 10 men tried to enter Wuchang to rescue missionaries but retired on being warned away, and a small landing force guarded American private property and consulate at Hankow. Marines were deployed in November to guard the cable stations at Shanghai; landing forces were sent for protection in Nanking, Chinkiang, Taku and elsewhere.[RL30172] 1912: Honduras: A small force landed to prevent seizure by the government of an American-owned railroad at Puerto Cortes. The forces were withdrawn after the United States disapproved the action.[RL30172] 1912: Panama: Troops, on request of both political parties, supervised elections outside the Panama Canal Zone.[RL30172] 1912: Cuba: From June 5 to August 5, U.S. forces protected American interests in Oriente Province and in Havana.[RL30172] 1912: China: August 24–26, on Kentucky Island, and August 26–30 at Camp Nicholson. U.S. forces protected Americans and American interests during the Xinhai Revolution.[RL30172] 1912: Turkey: From November 18 to December 3, U.S. forces guarded the American legation at Constantinople during the First Balkan War[RL30172] 1912–1925: Nicaragua: From August to November 1912, U.S. forces protected American interests during an attempted revolution. A small force, serving as a legation guard and seeking to promote peace and stability, remained until August 5, 1925.[RL30172] 1912–1941: China: The disorders which began with the overthrow of the dynasty during Kuomintang rebellion in 1912, which were redirected by the invasion of China by Japan, led to demonstrations and landing parties for the protection of U.S. interests in China continuously and at many points from 1912 on to 1941. The guard at Peking and along the route to the sea was maintained until 1941. In 1927, the United States had 5,670 troops ashore in China and 44 naval vessels in its waters. In 1933 the United States had 3,027 armed men ashore. The protective action was generally based on treaties with China concluded from 1858 to 1901.[RL30172] 1913: Mexico: From September 5 to 7, a few marines landed at Ciaris Estero to aid in evacuating American citizens and others from the Yaqui Valley, made dangerous for foreigners by civil strife.[RL30172] 1914: Haiti: January 29 to February 9, February 20 and 21, October 19. Intermittently, U.S. naval forces protected American nationals in a time of rioting and revolution.[RL30172] The specific order from the Secretary of the Navy to the invasion commander, Admiral William Deville Bundy, was to "protect American and foreign" interests.[citation needed] 1914: Dominican Republic: In June and July, during a revolutionary movement, United States naval forces by gunfire stopped the bombardment of Puerto Plata, and by threat of force maintained Santo Domingo City as a neutral zone.[RL30172] 1914–1917: Mexico: Tampico Affair led to Occupation of Veracruz, Mexico. Undeclared Mexican–American hostilities followed the Tampico Affair and Villa's raids . Also Pancho Villa Expedition) – an abortive military operation conducted by the United States Army against the military forces of Francisco "Pancho" Villa from 1916 to 1917 and included capture of Veracruz. On March 19, 1915 on orders from President Woodrow Wilson, and with tacit consent by Venustiano Carranza General John J. Pershing led an invasion force of 10,000 men into Mexico to capture Villa.[RL30172] 1915–1934: Haiti: From July 28, 1915 to August 15, 1934, United States occupation of Haiti. US forces maintained order during a period of chronic political instability.[RL30172] During the initial entrance into Haiti, the specific order from the Secretary of the Navy to the invasion commander, Admiral William Deville Bundy, was to "protect American and foreign" interests.[citation needed] 1916: China: American forces landed to quell a riot taking place on American property in Nanking.[RL30172] 1916–1924: Dominican Republic: From May 1916 to September 1924, Occupation of the Dominican Republic. American naval forces maintained order during a period of chronic and threatened insurrection.[RL30172] 1917: China: American troops were landed at Chungking to protect American lives during a political crisis.[RL30172] 1917–1918: World War I: On April 6, 1917, the United States declared war with Germany and on December 7, 1917, with Austria-Hungary. Entrance of the United States into the war was precipitated by Germany's submarine warfare against neutral shipping and the Zimmermann Telegram.[RL30172] 1917–1922: Cuba: U.S. forces protected American interests during insurrection and subsequent unsettled conditions. Most of the United States armed forces left Cuba by August 1919, but two companies remained at Camaguey until February 1922.[RL30172] 1918–1919: Mexico: After withdrawal of the Pershing expedition, U.S. troops entered Mexico in pursuit of bandits at least three times in 1918 and six times in 1919. In August 1918, American and Mexican troops fought at Nogales, Battle of Ambos Nogales. The incident began when German spies plotted an attack with Mexican soldiers on Nogales Arizona. The fighting began when a Mexican officer shot and killed a U.S. soldier on American soil. A full-scale battle then ensued, ending with a Mexican surrender.[RL30172] 1918–1920: Panama: U.S. forces were used for police duty according to treaty stipulations, at Chiriqui, during election disturbances and subsequent unrest.[RL30172] 1918–1920: Russian SFSR: Marines were landed at and near Vladivostok in June and July to protect the American consulate and other points in the fighting between the Bolshevik troops and the Czech Army which had traversed Siberia from the western front. A joint proclamation of emergency government and neutrality was issued by the American, Japanese, British, French, and Czech commanders in July. In August 7,000 men were landed in Vladivostok and remained until January 1920, as part of an allied occupation force. In September 1918, 5,000 American troops joined the allied intervention force at the city of Arkhangelsk and remained until June 1919. These operations were in response to the Bolshevik revolution in Russia and were partly supported by Czarist or Kerensky elements. [RL30172] For details, see the American Expeditionary Force Siberia and the American Expeditionary Force North Russia. 1919: Dalmatia (Croatia): U.S. forces were landed at Trau at the request of Italian authorities to police order between the Italians and Serbs.[RL30172] 1919: Turkey: Marines from the USS Arizona were landed to guard the U.S. Consulate during the Greek occupation of Constantinople.[RL30172] 1919: Honduras: From September 8 to 12, a landing force was sent ashore to maintain order in a neutral zone during an attempted revolution.[RL30172] 1920–1929[edit] 1920: China: On March 14, a landing force was sent ashore for a few hours to protect lives during a disturbance at Kiukiang.[RL30172] 1920 – Guatemala: From April 9 to 27, U.S. forces protected the American Legation and other American interests, such as the cable station, during a period of fighting between Unionists and the Government of Guatemala.[RL30172] 1920–1922: Russia (Siberia): From February 16, 1920 to November 19, 1922, a Marine guard was sent to protect the United States radio station and property on Russian Island, Bay of Vladivostok.[RL30172] 1921: Panama and Costa Rica: American naval squadrons demonstrated in April on both sides of the Isthmus to prevent war between the two countries over a boundary dispute.[RL30172] 1922: Turkey: In September and October, a landing force was sent ashore with consent of both Greek and Turkish authorities, to protect American lives and property when the Turkish nationalists entered İzmir (Smyrna).[RL30172] 1922–1923: China: From April 1922 to November 1923, Marines were landed five times to protect Americans during periods of unrest.[RL30172] 1924: Honduras: From February 28 to March 31, and from September 10 to 15, U.S. forces protected American lives and interests during election hostilities.[RL30172] 1924: China: In September, Marines were landed to protect Americans and other foreigners in Shanghai during Chinese factional hostilities.[RL30172] 1925: China: From January 15 to August 29, fighting of Chinese factions accompanied by riots and demonstrations in Shanghai brought the landing of American forces to protect lives and property in the International Settlement.[RL30172] 1925: Honduras: From April 19 to 21, U.S. forces protected foreigners at La Ceiba during a political upheaval.[RL30172] 1925: Panama: From October 12 to 23, strikes and rent riots led to the landing of about 600 American troops to keep order and protect American interests.[RL30172] 1926–1933: Nicaragua: From May 7 to June 5, 1926 and August 27, 1926 to January 3, 1933, the coup d'état of General Chamorro aroused revolutionary activities leading to the landing of American marines to protect the interests of the United States. United States forces came and went intermittently until January 3, 1933.[RL30172] 1926: China: In August and September, the Nationalist attack on Hankow brought the landing of American naval forces to protect American citizens. A small guard was maintained at the consulate general even after September 16, when the rest of the forces were withdrawn. Likewise, when Nationalist forces captured Kiukiang, naval forces were landed for the protection of foreigners November 4 to 6.[RL30172] 1927: China: In February, fighting at Shanghai caused presence American naval forces and marines to be increased. In March, a naval guard was stationed at American consulate at Nanking after Nationalist forces captured the city. American and British destroyers later used shell fire to protect Americans and other foreigners. Subsequently, additional forces of Marines and naval forces were stationed in the vicinity of Shanghai and Tientsin.[RL30172] 1930–1939[edit] 1932: China: American forces were landed to protect American interests during the Japanese occupation of Shanghai.[RL30172] 1932: United States: "Bonus Army" of 17,000 WWI veterans plus 20,000 family cleared from Washington and then Anacostia flats "Hooverville" by 3rd Cavalry and 12th Infantry Regiments under Gen. Douglas MacArthur and Major Dwight D Eisenhower, July 28. 1933: Cuba: During a revolution against President Gerardo Machado naval forces demonstrated but no landing was made.[RL30172] 1934: China: Marines landed at Foochow to protect the American Consulate.[RL30172] 1940–1944[edit] 1940: Newfoundland, Bermuda, St. Lucia, – Bahamas, Jamaica, Antigua, Trinidad, and British Guiana: Troops were sent to guard air and naval bases obtained under lease by negotiation with the United Kingdom. These were sometimes called lend-lease bases but were under the Destroyers for Bases Agreement.[RL30172] 1941: Greenland: Greenland was taken under protection of the United States in April.[RL30172] 1941: Netherlands (Dutch Guiana): In November, the President ordered American troops to occupy Dutch Guiana, but by agreement with the Netherlands government in exile, Brazil cooperated to protect aluminum ore supply from the bauxite mines in Suriname.[RL30172] 1941: Iceland: Iceland was taken under the protection of the United States, with consent of its government replacing British troops, for strategic reasons.[RL30172] 1941: Germany: Sometime in the spring, the President ordered the Navy to patrol ship lanes to Europe. By July, U.S. warships were convoying and by September were attacking German submarines. In November, in response to the October 31, 1941 sinking of the USS Reuben James, the Neutrality Act was partly repealed to protect U.S. military aid to Britain. [RL30172] 1941–1945: World War II: On December 8, 1941, the United States declared war against Japan in response to the bombing of Pearl Harbor. On December 11, Germany declared war against the United States.[5] 1945–1949[edit] 1945: China: In October 50,000 U.S. Marines were sent to North China to assist Chinese Nationalist authorities in disarming and repatriating the Japanese in China and in controlling ports, railroads, and airfields. This was in addition to approximately 60,000 U.S. forces remaining in China at the end of World War II.[RL30172] 1945–1949: Occupation of part of Germany. 1945–1955: Occupation of part of Austria. 1945–1952: Occupation of Japan. 1944–1946: Temporary reoccupation of the Philippines during World War II and in preparation for previously scheduled independence.[citation needed] 1945–1947: U.S. Marines garrisoned in mainland China to oversee the removal of Soviet and Japanese forces after World War II.[6] 1945–1949: Post-World War II occupation of South Korea; North Korean insurgency in Republic of Korea[7] 1946: Trieste, (Italy): President Truman ordered the increase of US troops along the zonal occupation line and the reinforcement of air forces in northern Italy after Yugoslav forces shot down an unarmed US Army transport plane flying over Venezia Giulia..[citation needed] Earlier U.S. naval units had been sent to the scene.[RL30172] Later the Free Territory of Trieste, Zone A. 1948: Jerusalem (British Mandate): A Marine consular guard was sent to Jerusalem to protect the U.S. Consul General.[RL30172] 1948: Berlin: Berlin Airlift After the Soviet Union established a land blockade of the U.S., British, and French sectors of Berlin on June 24, 1948, the United States and its allies airlifted supplies to Berlin until after the blockade was lifted in May 1949.[RL30172] 1948–1949: China: Marines were dispatched to Nanking to protect the American Embassy when the city fell to Communist troops, and to Shanghai to aid in the protection and evacuation of Americans.[RL30172] 1950–1959 1950–1953: Korean War: The United States responded to the North Korean invasion of South Korea by going to its assistance, pursuant to United Nations Security Council resolutions. US forces deployed in Korea exceeded 300,000 during the last year of the active conflict (1953). Over 36,600 US military were killed in action.[RL30172] 1950–1955: Formosa (Taiwan): In June 1950, at the beginning of the Korean War, President Truman ordered the U.S. Seventh Fleet to prevent Chinese Communist attacks upon Formosa and Chinese Nationalist operations against mainland China.[RL30172] 1954–1955: China: Naval units evacuated U.S. civilians and military personnel from the Tachen Islands.[RL30172] [ payge @ 05.02.2018. 12:15 ] @
1955–1964: Vietnam: First military advisors sent to Vietnam on February 12, 1955. By 1964, US troop levels had grown to 21,000. On August 7, 1964, US Congress approved Gulf of Tonkin resolution affirming "All necessary measures to repel any armed attack against the forces of the United States. . .to prevent further aggression. . . (and) assist any member or protocol state of the Southeast Asian Collective Defense Treaty (SEATO) requesting assistance. . ."[Vietnam timeline]
1956: Egypt: A marine battalion evacuated US nationals and other persons from Alexandria during the Suez Crisis.[RL30172] 1958: Lebanon: 1958 Lebanon crisis, Marines were landed in Lebanon at the invitation of President Camille Chamoun to help protect against threatened insurrection supported from the outside. The President's action was supported by a Congressional resolution passed in 1957 that authorized such actions in that area of the world.[RL30172] 1959–1960: The Caribbean: Second Marine Ground Task Force was deployed to protect U.S. nationals following the Cuban Revolution.[RL30172] 1955–1975: Vietnam War: U.S. military advisers had been in South Vietnam for a decade, and their numbers had been increased as the military position of the Saigon government became weaker. After citing what he falsely termed were attacks on U.S. destroyers, in what came to be known as the Gulf of Tonkin incident, President Johnson asked in August 1964 for a resolution expressing U.S. determination to support "freedom and protect peace in Southeast Asia." Congress responded with the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, giving President Johnson authorization, without a formal declaration of war by Congress, for the use of conventional military force in Southeast Asia. Following this resolution, and following a communist attack on a U.S. installation in central Vietnam, the United States escalated its participation in the war to a peak of 543,000 military personnel by April 1969.[RL30172] 1960–1969[edit] 1961: Cuba: The Bay of Pigs Invasion, known in Hispanic America as Invasión de Bahía de Cochinos (or Invasión de Playa Girón or Batalla de Girón), was an unsuccessful military invasion of Cuba undertaken by the CIA-sponsored paramilitary group Brigade 2506 on April 17, 1961. 1962: Thailand: The Third Marine Expeditionary Unit landed on May 17, 1962 to support that country during the threat of Communist pressure from outside; by July 30, the 5,000 marines had been withdrawn.[RL30172] 1962: Cuba: Cuban missile crisis, On October 22, President Kennedy instituted a "quarantine" on the shipment of offensive missiles to Cuba from the Soviet Union. He also warned Soviet Union that the launching of any missile from Cuba against nations in the Western Hemisphere would bring about U.S. nuclear retaliation on the Soviet Union. A negotiated settlement was achieved in a few days.[RL30172] 1962–1975: Laos: From October 1962 until 1975, the United States played an important role in military support of anti-Communist forces in Laos.[RL30172] 1964: Congo (Zaïre): The United States sent four transport planes to provide airlift for Congolese troops during a rebellion and to transport Belgian paratroopers to rescue foreigners.[RL30172] 1965: Invasion of Dominican Republic: Operation Power Pack, The United States intervened to protect lives and property during a Dominican revolt and sent 20,000 U.S. troops as fears grew that the revolutionary forces were coming increasingly under Communist control.[RL30172] A popular rebellion broke out, promising to reinstall Juan Bosch as the country's elected leader. The revolution was crushed when U.S. Marines landed to uphold the military regime by force. 1967: Israel: The USS Liberty incident, whereupon a United States Navy Technical Research Ship was attacked June 8, 1967 by Israeli armed forces, killing 34 and wounding more than 170 U.S. crew members. 1967: Congo (Zaïre): The United States sent three military transport aircraft with crews to provide the Congo central government with logistical support during a revolt.[RL30172] 1968: Laos & Cambodia: U.S. starts secret bombing campaign against targets along the Ho Chi Minh trail in the sovereign nations of Cambodia and Laos. The bombings last at least two years. (See Operation Commando Hunt) 1970–1979[edit] 1970: Cambodian Campaign: U.S. troops were ordered into Cambodia to clean out Communist sanctuaries from which Viet Cong and North Vietnamese attacked U.S. and South Vietnamese forces in Vietnam. The object of this attack, which lasted from April 30 to June 30, was to ensure the continuing safe withdrawal of American forces from South Vietnam and to assist the program of Vietnamization.[RL30172] 1972: North Vietnam: Christmas bombing Operation Linebacker II (not mentioned in RL30172, but an operation leading to peace negotiations). The operation was conducted from December 18–29, 1972. It was a bombing of the cities Hanoi and Haiphong by B-52 bombers. 1973: Operation Nickel Grass, a strategic airlift operation conducted by the United States to deliver weapons and supplies to Israel during the Yom Kippur War. 1974: Evacuation from Cyprus: United States naval forces evacuated U.S. civilians during the Turkish invasion of Cyprus.[RL30172] 1975: Evacuation from Vietnam: Operation Frequent Wind, On April 3, 1975, President Ford reported U.S. naval vessels, helicopters, and Marines had been sent to assist in evacuation of refugees and US nationals from Vietnam.[RL30172] 1975: Evacuation from Cambodia: Operation Eagle Pull, On April 12, 1975, President Ford reported that he had ordered U.S. military forces to proceed with the planned evacuation of U.S. citizens from Cambodia.[RL30172] 1975: South Vietnam: On April 30, 1975, President Ford reported that a force of 70 evacuation helicopters and 865 Marines had evacuated about 1,400 U.S. citizens and 5,500 third country nationals and South Vietnamese from landing zones in and around the U.S. Embassy, Saigon and Tan Son Nhut Airport.[RL30172] 1975: Cambodia: Mayaguez incident, On May 15, 1975, President Ford reported he had ordered military forces to retake the SS Mayaguez, a merchant vessel which was seized from Cambodian naval patrol boats in international waters and forced to proceed to a nearby island.[RL30172] 1976: Lebanon: On July 22 and 23, 1976, helicopters from five U.S. naval vessels evacuated approximately 250 Americans and Europeans from Lebanon during fighting between Lebanese factions after an overland convoy evacuation had been blocked by hostilities.[RL30172] 1976: Korea: Additional forces were sent to Korea after two American soldiers were killed by North Korean soldiers in the demilitarized zone between North and South Korea while cutting down a tree.[RL30172] 1978: Zaïre (Congo): From May 19 through June, the United States utilized military transport aircraft to provide logistical support to Belgian and French rescue operations in Zaïre.[RL30172] 1980–1989[edit] 1980: Iran: Operation Eagle Claw, on April 26, 1980, President Carter reported the use of six U.S. transport planes and eight helicopters in an unsuccessful attempt to rescue the American hostages in Iran. 1980: U.S. Army and Air Force units arrive in the Sinai in September as part of "Operation Bright Star". They are there to train with Egyptian armed forces as part of the Camp David peace accords signed in 1979. Elements of the 101st Airborne Division, (1st Battalion, 502nd Infantry) and Air Force MAC (Military Airlift Command) units are in theater for four months & are the first U.S. military forces in the region since World War II. 1981: El Salvador: After a guerrilla offensive against the government of El Salvador, additional U.S. military advisers were sent to El Salvador, bringing the total to approximately 55, to assist in training government forces in counterinsurgency.[RL30172] 1981: Libya: First Gulf of Sidra incident, on August 19, 1981, U.S. planes based on the carrier USS Nimitz shot down two Libyan jets over the Gulf of Sidra after one of the Libyan jets had fired a heat-seeking missile. The United States periodically held freedom of navigation exercises in the Gulf of Sidra, claimed by Libya as territorial waters but considered international waters by the United States.[RL30172] [ payge @ 05.02.2018. 12:17 ] @
1982: Sinai: On March 19, 1982, President Reagan reported the deployment of military personnel and equipment to participate in the Multinational Force and Observers in the Sinai. Participation had been authorized by the Multinational Force and Observers Resolution, Public Law 97-132.[RL30172]
1982: Lebanon: Multinational Force in Lebanon, on August 21, 1982, President Reagan reported the dispatch of 800 Marines to serve in the multinational force to assist in the withdrawal of members of the Palestine Liberation force from Beirut. The Marines left September 20, 1982.[RL30172] 1982–1983: Lebanon: On September 29, 1982, President Reagan reported the deployment of 1200 marines to serve in a temporary multinational force to facilitate the restoration of Lebanese government sovereignty. On September 29, 1983, Congress passed the Multinational Force in Lebanon Resolution (P.L. 98-119) authorizing the continued participation for eighteen months.[RL30172] 1983: Egypt: After a Libyan plane bombed a city in Sudan on March 18, 1983, and Sudan and Egypt appealed for assistance, the United States dispatched an AWACS electronic surveillance plane to Egypt.[RL30172] 1983: Grenada: Operation Urgent Fury, citing the increased threat of Soviet and Cuban influence and noting the development of an international airport following a coup d'état and alignment with the Soviet Union and Cuba, the U.S. invades the island nation of Grenada.[RL30172] 1983–1989: Honduras: In July 1983, the United States undertook a series of exercises in Honduras that some believed might lead to conflict with Nicaragua. On March 25, 1986, unarmed U.S. military helicopters and crewmen ferried Honduran troops to the Nicaraguan border to repel Nicaraguan troops.[RL30172] 1983: Chad: On August 8, 1983, President Reagan reported the deployment of two AWACS electronic surveillance planes and eight F-15 fighter planes and ground logistical support forces to assist Chad against Libyan and rebel forces.[RL30172] 1984: Persian Gulf: On June 5, 1984, Saudi Arabian jet fighter planes, aided by intelligence from a U.S. AWACS electronic surveillance aircraft and fueled by a U.S. KC-10 tanker, shot down two Iranian fighter planes over an area of the Persian Gulf proclaimed as a protected zone for shipping.[RL30172] 1985: Italy: On October 10, 1985, U.S. Navy pilots intercepted an Egyptian airliner and forced it to land in Sicily. The airliner was carrying the hijackers of the Italian cruise ship Achille Lauro who had killed an American citizen during the hijacking.[RL30172] 1986: Libya: Action in the Gulf of Sidra (1986), on March 26, 1986, President Reagan reported on March 24 and 25, U.S. forces, while engaged in freedom of navigation exercises around the Gulf of Sidra, had been attacked by Libyan missiles and the United States had responded with missiles.[RL30172] 1986: Libya: Operation El Dorado Canyon, on April 16, 1986, President Reagan reported that U.S. air and naval forces had conducted bombing strikes on terrorist facilities and military installations in the Libyan capitol of Tripoli, claiming that Libyan leader Col. Muammar Gaddafi was responsible for a bomb attack at a German disco that killed two U.S. soldiers.[RL30172] 1986: Bolivia: U.S. Army personnel and aircraft assisted Bolivia in anti-drug operations.[RL30172] 1987: Persian Gulf: USS Stark was struck on May 17 by two Exocet antiship missiles fired from a Dassault Mirage F1 of the Iraqi Air Force during the Iran–Iraq War, killing 37 U.S. Navy sailors. 1987: Persian Gulf: Operation Nimble Archer. Attacks on two Iranian oil platforms in the Persian Gulf by United States Navy forces on October 19. The attack was a response to Iran's October 16, 1987 attack on the MV Sea Isle City, a reflagged Kuwaiti oil tanker at anchor off Kuwait, with a Silkworm missile. 1987–1988: Persian Gulf: Operation Earnest Will. After the Iran–Iraq War (the Tanker War phase) resulted in several military incidents in the Persian Gulf, the United States increased U.S. joint military forces operations in the Persian Gulf and adopted a policy of reflagging and escorting Kuwaiti oil tankers through the Persian Gulf to protect them from Iraqi and Iranian attacks. President Reagan reported that U.S. ships had been fired upon or struck mines or taken other military action on September 21 (Iran Ajr), October 8, and October 19, 1987 and April 18 (Operation Praying Mantis), July 3, and July 14, 1988. The United States gradually reduced its forces after a cease-fire between Iran and Iraq on August 20, 1988.[RL30172] It was the largest naval convoy operation since World War II.[8] 1987–1988: Persian Gulf: Operation Prime Chance was a United States Special Operations Command operation intended to protect U.S.-flagged oil tankers from Iranian attack during the Iran–Iraq War. The operation took place roughly at the same time as Operation Earnest Will. 1988: Persian Gulf: Operation Praying Mantis was the April 18, 1988 action waged by U.S. naval forces in retaliation for the Iranian mining of the Persian Gulf and the subsequent damage to an American warship. 1988: Honduras: Operation Golden Pheasant was an emergency deployment of U.S. troops to Honduras in 1988, as a result of threatening actions by the forces of the (then socialist) Nicaraguans. 1988: USS Vincennes shoot-down of Iran Air Flight 655. 1988: Panama: In mid-March and April 1988, during a period of instability in Panama and as the United States increased pressure on Panamanian head of state General Manuel Noriega to resign, the United States sent 1,000 troops to Panama, to "further safeguard the canal, US lives, property and interests in the area." The forces supplemented 10,000 U.S. military personnel already in the Panama Canal Zone.[RL30172] 1989: Libya: Second Gulf of Sidra incident. On January 4, 1989, two U.S. Navy F-14 aircraft based on the USS John F. Kennedy shot down two Libyan jet fighters over the Mediterranean Sea about 70 miles north of Libya. The U.S. pilots said the Libyan planes had demonstrated hostile intentions.[RL30172] 1989: Panama: On May 11, 1989, in response to General Noriega's disregard of the results of the Panamanian election, President Bush ordered a brigade-sized force of approximately 1,900 troops to augment the estimated 1,000 U.S. forces already in the area.[RL30172] 1989: Colombia, Bolivia, and Peru: Andean Initiative in War on Drugs, On September 15, 1989, President Bush announced that military and law enforcement assistance would be sent to help the Andean nations of Colombia, Bolivia, and Peru combat illicit drug producers and traffickers. By mid-September there were 50–100 U.S. military advisers in Colombia in connection with transport and training in the use of military equipment, plus seven Special Forces teams of 2–12 persons to train troops in the three countries.[RL30172] 1989: Philippines: Operation Classic Resolve, On December 2, 1989, President Bush reported that on December 1, Air Force fighters from Clark Air Base in Luzon had assisted the Aquino government to repel a coup attempt. In addition, 100 marines were sent from U.S. Naval Base Subic Bay to protect the United States Embassy in Manila.[RL30172] 1989–1990: Panama: United States invasion of Panama and Operation Just Cause, On December 21, 1989, President Bush reported that he had ordered U.S. military forces to Panama to protect the lives of American citizens and bring General Noriega to justice. By February 13, 1990, all the invasion forces had been withdrawn.[RL30172] Around 200 Panamanian civilians were reported killed. The Panamanian head of state, General Manuel Noriega, was captured and brought to the U.S. 1990–1999[edit] 1990: Liberia: On August 6, 1990, President Bush reported that a reinforced rifle company had been sent to provide additional security to the U.S. Embassy in Monrovia, and that helicopter teams had evacuated U.S. citizens from Liberia.[RL30172] 1990: Saudi Arabia: On August 9, 1990, President Bush reported that he launched Operation Desert Shield by ordering the forward deployment of substantial elements of the U.S. armed forces into the Persian Gulf region to help defend Saudi Arabia after the August 2 invasion of Kuwait by Iraq. On November 16, 1990, he reported the continued buildup of the forces to ensure an adequate offensive military option.[RL30172]American hostages being held in Iran.[RL30172] 1991: Iraq and Kuwait: Gulf War, On January 16, 1991, in response to the refusal by Iraq to leave Kuwait, U.S. and Coalition aircraft attacked Iraqi forces and military targets in Iraq and Kuwait in conjunction with a coalition of allies and under United Nations Security Council resolutions. On February 24, 1991, U.S.-led United Nation (UN) forces launched a ground offensive that finally drove Iraqi forces out of Kuwait within 100 hours. Combat operations ended on February 28, 1991, when President Bush declared a ceasefire.[RL30172] 1991: Iraq: Operation Desert Sabre, The Allied ground offensive from 24-27 Feb 1991[9] 1991–1996: Iraq: Operation Provide Comfort, Delivery of humanitarian relief and military protection for Kurds fleeing their homes in northern Iraq during the 1991 uprising, by a small Allied ground force based in Turkey which began in April 1991. 1991: Iraq: On May 17, 1991, President Bush stated that the Iraqi repression of the Kurdish people had necessitated a limited introduction of U.S. forces into northern Iraq for emergency relief purposes.[RL30172] 1991: Zaire: On September 25–27, 1991, after widespread looting and rioting broke out in Kinshasa, Air Force C-141s transported 100 Belgian troops and equipment into Kinshasa. American planes also carried 300 French troops into the Central African Republic and hauled evacuated American citizens.[RL30172] 1992: Sierra Leone: Operation Silver Anvil, Following the April 29 coup that overthrew President Joseph Saidu Momoh, a United States European Command (USEUCOM) Joint Special Operations Task Force evacuated 438 people (including 42 Third Country nationals) on May 3. Two Air Mobility Command (AMC) C-141s flew 136 people from Freetown, Sierra Leone, to the Rhein-Main Air Base in Germany and nine C-130 sorties carried another 302 people to Dakar, Senegal.[RL30172] 1992–1996: Bosnia and Herzegovina: Operation Provide Promise was a humanitarian relief operation in Bosnia and Herzegovina during the Yugoslav Wars, from July 2, 1992, to January 9, 1996, which made it the longest running humanitarian airlift in history.[10] 1992: Kuwait: On August 3, 1992, the United States began a series of military exercises in Kuwait, following Iraqi refusal to recognize a new border drawn up by the United Nations and refusal to cooperate with UN inspection teams.[RL30172] 1992–2003: Iraq: Iraqi no-fly zones, The U.S., United Kingdom, and its Gulf War allies declared and enforced "no-fly zones" over the majority of sovereign Iraqi airspace, prohibiting Iraqi flights in zones in southern Iraq and northern Iraq, conducting aerial reconnaissance, and several specific attacks on Iraqi air-defense systems as part of the UN mandate. Often, Iraqi forces continued throughout a decade by firing on U.S. and British aircraft patrolling no-fly zones.(See also Operation Northern Watch, Operation Southern Watch) [RL30172] 1992–1995: Somalia: Operation Restore Hope, Somali Civil War: On December 10, 1992, President Bush reported that he had deployed U.S. armed forces to Somalia in response to a humanitarian crisis and a UN Security Council Resolution in support for UNITAF. The operation came to an end on May 4, 1993. U.S. forces continued to participate in the successor United Nations Operation in Somalia (UNOSOM II).(See also Battle of Mogadishu)[RL30172] [ payge @ 05.02.2018. 12:21 ] @
1993–1995: Bosnia: Operation Deny Flight, On April 12, 1993, in response to a United Nations Security Council passage of Resolution 816, U.S. and NATO enforced the no-fly zone over the Bosnian airspace, prohibited all unauthorized flights and allowed to "take all necessary measures to ensure compliance with [the no-fly zone restrictions]."
1993: Macedonia: On July 9, 1993, President Clinton reported the deployment of 350 U.S. soldiers to the Republic of Macedonia to participate in the UN Protection Force to help maintain stability in the area of former Yugoslavia.[RL30172] 1994: Bosnia: Banja Luka incident, NATO become involved in the first combat situation when NATO U.S. Air Force F-16 jets shot down four of the six Bosnian Serb J-21 Jastreb single-seat light attack jets for violating UN-mandated no-fly zone. 1994–1995: Haiti: Operation Uphold Democracy, U.S. ships had begun embargo against Haiti. Up to 20,000 U.S. military troops were later deployed to Haiti to restore democratically elected Haiti President Jean-Bertrand Aristide from a military regime which came into power in 1991 after a major coup.[RL30172] 1994: Macedonia: On April 19, 1994, President Clinton reported that the U.S. contingent in Macedonia had been increased by a reinforced company of 200 personnel.[RL30172] [ payge @ 05.02.2018. 12:23 ] @
1995: Bosnia: Operation Deliberate Force, On August 30, 1995, U.S. and NATO aircraft began a major bombing campaign of Bosnian Serb Army in response to a Bosnian Serb mortar attack on a Sarajevo market that killed 37 people on August 28, 1995. This operation lasted until September 20, 1995. The air campaign along with a combined allied ground force of Muslim and Croatian Army against Serb positions led to a Dayton Agreement in December 1995 with the signing of warring factions of the war. As part of Operation Joint Endeavor, U.S. and NATO dispatched the Implementation Force (IFOR) peacekeepers to Bosnia to uphold the Dayton agreement.[RL30172]
1996: Liberia: Operation Assured Response, On April 11, 1996, President Clinton reported that on April 9, 1996 due to the :"deterioration of the security situation and the resulting threat to American citizens" in Liberia he had ordered U.S. military forces to evacuate from that country "private U.S. citizens and certain third-country nationals who had taken refuge in the U.S. Embassy compound...."[RL30172] 1996: Central African Republic, Operation Quick Response: On May 23, 1996, President Clinton reported the deployment of U.S. military personnel to Bangui, Central African Republic, to conduct the evacuation from that country of "private U.S. citizens and certain U.S. government employees", and to provide "enhanced security for the American Embassy in Bangui."[RL30172] United States Marine Corps elements of Joint Task Force Assured Response, responding in nearby Liberia, provided security to the embassy and evacuated 448 people, including between 190 and 208 Americans. The last Marines left Bangui on June 22. 1996: Kuwait: Operation Desert Strike, American Air Strikes in the north to protect the Kurdish population against the Iraqi Army attacks. 1996: Bosnia: Operation Joint Guard, On December 21, 1996, U.S. and NATO established the SFOR peacekeepers to replace the IFOR in enforcing the peace under the Dayton agreement. 1997: Albania: Operation Silver Wake, On March 13, 1997, U.S. military forces were used to evacuate certain U.S. government employees and private U.S. citizens from Tirana, Albania.[RL30172] 1997: Congo and Gabon: On March 27, 1997, President Clinton reported on March 25, 1997, a standby evacuation force of U.S. military personnel had been deployed to Congo and Gabon to provide enhanced security and to be available for any necessary evacuation operation.[RL30172] 1997: Sierra Leone: On May 29 and 30, 1997, U.S. military personnel were deployed to Freetown, Sierra Leone, to prepare for and undertake the evacuation of certain U.S. government employees and private U.S. citizens.[RL30172] 1997: Cambodia: On July 11, 1997, In an effort to ensure the security of American citizens in Cambodia during a period of domestic conflict there, a Task Force of about 550 U.S. military personnel were deployed at Utapao Air Base in Thailand for possible evacuations. [RL30172] [ payge @ 05.02.2018. 12:25 ] @
1998: Iraq: Operation Desert Fox, U.S. and British forces conduct a major four-day bombing campaign from December 16–19, 1998 on Iraqi targets.[RL30172]
1998: Guinea-Bissau: Operation Shepherd Venture, On June 10, 1998, in response to an army mutiny in Guinea-Bissau endangering the U.S. Embassy, President Clinton deployed a standby evacuation force of U.S. military personnel to Dakar, Senegal, to evacuate from the city of Bissau.[RL30172] 1998–1999: Keniya and Tanzania: U.S. military personnel were deployed to Nairobi, Keniya, to coordinate the medical and disaster assistance related to the bombing of the U.S. Embassies in Keniya and Tanzania.[RL30172] 1998: Afghanistan and Sudan: Operation Infinite Reach. On August 20, President Clinton ordered a cruise missile attack against two suspected terrorist training camps in Afghanistan and a suspected chemical factory in Sudan.[RL30172] 1998: Liberia: On September 27, 1998, America deployed a stand-by response and evacuation force of 30 U.S. military personnel to increase the security force at the U.S. Embassy in Monrovia. [1] [RL30172] 1999–2001: East Timor: Limited number of U.S. military forces deployed with the United Nations-mandated International Force for East Timor restore peace to East Timor.[RL30172] 1999: Serbia: Operation Allied Force: U.S. and NATO aircraft began a major bombing of Serbia and Serb positions in Kosovo on March 24, 1999, during the Kosovo War due to the refusal by Serbian President Slobodan Milošević to end repression against ethnic Albanians in Kosovo. This operation ended in June 10, 1999, when Milošević agreed to pull his troops out of Kosovo. In response to the situation in Kosovo, NATO dispatched the KFOR peacekeepers to secure the peace under UNSC Resolution 1244.[RL30172] [ payge @ 05.02.2018. 12:28 ] @
2000–2009[edit]
* 2000: Sierra Leone: On May 12, 2000, a U.S. Navy patrol craft deployed to Sierra Leone to support evacuation operations from that country if needed.[RL30172] * 2000: Nigeria: Special Forces troops are sent to Nigeria to lead a training mission in the country.[11] * 2000: Yemen: On October 12, 2000, after the USS Cole attack in the port of Aden, Yemen, military personnel were deployed to Aden.[RL30172] * 2000: East Timor: On February 25, 2000, a small number of U.S. military personnel were deployed to support the United Nations Transitional Administration in East Timor (UNTAET). [RL30172] * 2001: On April 1, 2001, a mid-air collision between a United States Navy EP-3E ARIES II signals surveillance aircraft and a People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) J-8II interceptor fighter jet resulted in an international dispute between the United States and the People's Republic of China called the Hainan Island incident. * 2001–2014: War in Afghanistan: The War on Terror begins with Operation Enduring Freedom. On October 7, 2001, U.S. Armed Forces invade Afghanistan in response to the 9/11 attacks and "begin combat action in Afghanistan against Al Qaeda terrorists and their Taliban supporters."[RL30172] * 2002: Yemen: On November 3, 2002, an American MQ-1 Predator fired a Hellfire missile at a car in Yemen killing Qaed Salim Sinan al-Harethi, an al-Qaeda leader thought to be responsible for the USS Cole bombing.[RL30172] * 2002: Philippines: OEF-Philippines, As of January, U.S. "combat-equipped and combat support forces" have been deployed to the Philippines to train with, assist and advise the Philippines' Armed Forces in enhancing their "counterterrorist capabilities."[RL30172] * 2002: Côte d'Ivoire: On September 25, 2002, in response to a rebellion in Côte d'Ivoire, U.S. military personnel went into Côte d'Ivoire to assist in the evacuation of American citizens from Bouaké.[12][RL30172] * 2003–2011: War in Iraq: Operation Iraqi Freedom, March 20, 2003, The United States leads a coalition that includes the United Kingdom, Australia and Poland to invade Iraq with the stated goal being "to disarm Iraq in pursuit of peace, stability, and security both in the Gulf region and in the United States."[RL30172] * 2003: Liberia: Second Liberian Civil War, On June 9, 2003, President Bush reported that on June 8 he had sent about 35 U.S. Marines into Monrovia, Liberia, to help secure the U.S. Embassy in Nouakchott, Mauritania, and to aid in any necessary evacuation from either Liberia or Mauritania.[RL30172] * 2003: Georgia and Djibouti: "US combat equipped and support forces" had been deployed to Georgia and Djibouti to help in enhancing their "counterterrorist capabilities."[13] * 2004: Haiti: 2004 Haitian coup d'état occurs, The US first sent 55 combat equipped military personnel to augment the U.S. Embassy security forces there and to protect American citizens and property in light. Later 200 additional US combat-equipped, military personnel were sent to prepare the way for a UN Multinational Interim Force, MINUSTAH.[RL30172] * 2004: War on Terror: U.S. anti-terror related activities were underway in Georgia, Djibouti, Keniya, Ethiopia, Yemen, and Eritrea.[14] * 2004–present: The U.S. deploys drone strikes to aid in the War in North-West Pakistan * 2005–2006: Pakistan: President Bush deploys troops from US Army Air Cav Brigades to provide Humanitarian relief to far remote villages in the Kashmir mountain ranges of Pakistan stricken by a massive earthquake. * 2006: Lebanon: part of the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit[15] begins evacuation of U.S. citizens willing to leave the country in the face of a likely ground invasion by Israel and continued fighting between Hezbollah and the Israeli military.[15][16] * 2007 - The Mogadishu Encounter, on November 4, 2007, Somali Pirate's boarded and attacked a North Korean merchant vessel. Passing U.S. Navy Ships and a helicopter that were patrolling at the time responded to the attack. Once the ship was freed from the pirates, the American forces were given permission to board and assist the wounded crew and handle surviving pirates. * 2007: Somalia: Battle of Ras Kamboni, On January 8, 2007, while the conflict between the Islamic Courts Union and the Transitional Federal Government continues, an AC-130 gunship conducts an aerial strike on a suspected al-Qaeda operative, along with other Islamist fighters, on Badmadow Island near Ras Kamboni in southern Somalia.[17] 2010–present[edit] * 2010–present: al-Qaeda insurgency in Yemen: The U.S. has been launching a series of drone strikes on suspected al-Qaeda, al-Shabaab, and ISIS positions in Yemen. * 2010–2011: Operation New Dawn, On February 17, 2010, U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates announced that as of September 1, 2010, the name "Operation Iraqi Freedom" would be replaced by "Operation New Dawn". This coincides with the reduction of American troops to 50,000. * 2011: 2011 military intervention in Libya: Operation Odyssey Dawn, United States and coalition enforcing U.N. Security Council Resolution 1973 with bombings of Libyan forces. * 2011: Osama Bin Laden is killed by U.S. military forces in Pakistan as part of Operation Neptune Spear. * 2011: Drone strikes on al-Shabab militants begin in Somalia.[18] This marks the 6th nation in which such strikes have been carried out,[19] including Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Yemen[20] and Libya. * 2011–present: Uganda: U.S. Combat troops sent in as advisers to Uganda.[21] * 2012: Jordan: 150 U.S. troops deployed to Jordan to help it contain the Syrian Civil War within Syria's borders. * 2012: Turkey: 400 troops and two batteries of Patriot missiles sent to Turkey to prevent any missile strikes from Syria. * 2012: Chad: 50 U.S. troops have deployed to the African country of Chad to help evacuate U.S. citizens and embassy personnel from the neighboring Central African Republic's capital of Bangui in the face of rebel advances toward the city. * 2013: Mali: U.S. forces assisted the French in Operation Serval with air refueling and transport aircraft. * 2013: Somalia: U.S. Air Force planes supported the French in the Bulo Marer hostage rescue attempt. However, they did not use any weapons. * 2013: 2013 Korean crisis * 2013: Navy SEALs conducted a raid in Somalia and possibly killed a senior Al-Shabaab official, simultaneously another raid took place in Tripoli, Libya, where Special Operations Forces captured Abu Anas al Libi (also known as Anas al-Libi)[22] * 2014–present: Uganda: V-22 Ospreys, MC-130s, KC-135s and additional U.S. soldiers are sent to Uganda to continue to help African forces search for Joseph Kony.[23] * 2014–present: American intervention in Iraq: Hundreds of U.S. troops deployed to protect American assets in Iraq and to advise Iraqi and Kurdish fighters.[24] In August the U.S. Air Force conducted a humanitarian air drop and the U.S. Navy began a series of airstrikes against Islamic State-aligned forces throughout northern Iraq.[25][26] * 2014: 2014 American rescue mission in Syria: The U.S. attempted to rescue James Foley and other hostages being held by ISIL. Air strikes were conducted on the ISIL military base known as "Osama bin Laden camp". Meanwhile, the bombings, Delta teams parachuted near an ISIL high-valued prison. The main roads were blocked to keep any target from escaping. When no hostage was found, the American troops began house to house searches. By this time, ISIL militants began arriving to the area. Heavy fighting occurred until the Americans decided to abandon the mission due to the hostages being nowhere in the area. Although the mission failed, at least 5 ISIL militants were killed, however 1 American troop was wounded. According to the reports, Jordan had a role in the operation and that one Jordanian soldier had been wounded as well. This was unconfirmed. * 2014–present: American-led intervention in Syria: American aircraft bomb Islamic State positions in Syria. Airstrikes on al-Qaeda, al-Nusra Front and Khorasan positions are also being conducted. * 2014–present: Intervention against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant: Syrian locals forces and American-led coalition forces launch a series of aerial attacks on ISIL and al-Nusra Front positions in Iraq and Syria. * 2014: 2014 Yemen hostage rescue operations against al-Qaeda: On November 25, U.S. Navy SEALs and Yemeni Special Forces launched an operations in Yemen in attempt to rescue eight hostages that were being held by al-Qaeda. Although the operation was successful, no American hostages were secured. In the first attempt, six Yemenis, one Saudi Arabian, and one Ethiopian were rescued. On December 4, 2014, al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) threatened to execute the Somers if the U.S. failed to the unspecified commands. AQAP also stated that they would be executed if the U.S. attempted another rescue operation. On December 6, a second operation was launched. 40 U.S. SEALs and 30 Yemeni troops were deployed to the compound. A 10-minute fire fight occurred before the American troops could enter where the remaining hostages (Somers and Korkie) were being held. They were alive, but fatally wounded. Surgery was done in mid air when flying away from the site. Korkie died while in flight, and Somers died once landed on the USS Makin Island. No American troop was killed/injured, however a Yemenis soldier was wounded. * 2015: April 30, 2015 U.S. sends ships to the Strait of Hormuz to shield vessels after Iranian Seizure of commercial vessel: The U.S. Navy deploys warships to protect American commercial vessels passing through the Strait of Hormuz from Iranian interference. Concerns were also raised that Iranian gunships were trailing a U.S. container ship. Iran additionally fired shots over the bow, and seized, a ship registered in the Marshall Islands, part of a long-standing dispute between the two nations.[27] * 2015–present: In early October 2015, the US military deployed 300 troops to Cameroon, with the approval of the Cameroonian government, their primary mission was to provide intelligence support to local forces as well as conducting reconnaissance flights. * 2017: 2017 Shayrat missile strike: Tomahawk missiles launched from US naval vessels in the Mediterranean hit a Syrian airbase in Homs Governorate in response to a chemical weapons attack against civilians south-west of Idlib. Seven are killed and nine are wounded.[28] [ Braxi @ 05.02.2018. 12:33 ] @
STA JE OVO ? Jel mozes da prevedes ?!
[ belbeg @ 05.02.2018. 12:34 ] @
Znači, da nema amera nebi bilo ni ove teme ni ovog teksta, koje je citirao payge.
[ Braxi @ 05.02.2018. 12:43 ] @
Madjarska 1956
Cehoslovacka 1968 Poljska 1981 Afganistan 1989 [ belbeg @ 05.02.2018. 13:04 ] @
Braxi, džabe se payge trudio da citira toliki tekst. Razbio si ga sa par slova!
[ payge @ 05.02.2018. 13:10 ] @
Middle East
Starting in June 2017, photos and videos from Syrian civilians in Raqqa showed that the US-backed coalition in Syria was illegally using white phosphorus in civilian areas. White phosphorus can burn human flesh down to the bone, and wounds can reignite up to days later. “No matter how white phosphorus is used, it poses a high risk of horrific and long-lasting harm in crowded cities like Raqqa and Mosul and any other areas with concentrations of civilians,” said Steve Goose, arms director at Human Rights Watch. One attack on an internet cafe killed at least 20 civilians, while other deaths are still being confirmed. One of those civilians killed was in the process of sending a report to Humans Rights Watch, when the cafe was struck. The US killed 273 syrian civilians in April, slightly more than the number killed by ISIS. A US attack in July killed another 50 civilians. In August, the US killed another 60+ civilians. 1,2,3 On April 4th, 2017, following the Khan Shaykhun chemical attack, Trump ordered an airstrike of 59 tomahawk cruise missiles(worth $70 million) fired at the Shayrat air base in Syria(one that Trump claims is the source of the chemical attack) in the 2017 Shayrat Missile Strike. This is the first attack by the US directly targeting Ba'athist Syrian government forces, who are closely allied with Russia. Russian Prime Minister Dimitry Medvedev said the attack brought the U.S. "within an inch" of clashing with the Russian military, and could've sparked a nuclear war. The attack was praised by US politicians on both sides of the aisle, as well >30 countries. Over 700 children have been killed US coalition airstrikes in Iraq and Syria since August 2014. The US conducted another airstrike against syra on June 7th, 2017.1 On March 21st, 2017, A US airstrike killed at least 30 Syrian civilians in an airstrike on a school in the Raqqa province. The week before, 49 people were killed when US warplanes fired on a target in in the 2017 al-Jinah airstrike, a village in western Aleppo province. US officials said the attack had hit a building where al-Qaeda operatives were meeting, but residents said the warplanes had struck a mosque where hundreds of people had gathered for a weekly religious meeting. 1 On March 17th, 2017, A US airstrike killed ~112 civilians in Mosul, Iraq. In response, US Defense Secretary James Mattis said, "There is no military force in the world that is proven more sensitive to civilian casualties." 1 On February 15th, 2017, US-backed Saudi planes bombed a funeral in Yemen, killing 5 women and wounding dozens more. In the 2015 - Present Yemeni Civil War, 16,200 people have been killed including 10,000 civilians, 3 million have been displaced and left homeless, and over 200,000 people are facing shortages of food, water and medicine. The US has used drone bombers in Yemen, and has supported Saudi interests in the region, with military contracts providing weapons and planes. The US has weapons contracts with Saudi Arabia valuing over $110 billion. 1,2 In 2010, President Obama directed the CIA to assassinate an American citizen in Yemen, Anwar al-Awlaki, despite the fact that he had never been charged with any crime, killing him with a September, 2011 drone strike. Two weeks later, a separate CIA drone strike in Yemen killed his 16-year-old American-born son, Abdulrahman, along with the boy’s 17-year-old cousin and several other innocent Yemenis. In January 2017, Trump ordered a SEAL strike, and reports from Yemen quickly surfaced that 30 people were killed, including 10 women and children. Among the dead: the 8-year-old daughter of Anwar Awlaki, brother of the 16 year old killed by Obama. 1 In January 2015, the US killed 13-year-old Mohammed Tuaiman in Yemen with a drone strike. A month earlier, the guardian interviewed him, and he was quoted as saying: "“A lot of the kids in this area wake up from sleeping because of nightmares from them and some now have mental problems. They turned our area into hell and continuous horror, day and night, we even dream of them in our sleep...In their eyes, we don’t deserve to live like people in the rest of the world and we don’t have feelings or emotions or cry or feel pain like all the other humans around the world.” In 2011 an unmanned combat drone killed his father and teenage brother as they were out herding the family’s camels. 1 Since 2013, The US has intervened militarily in the ongoing Syrian Civil War, with airstrikes, naval bombardments, and funding and training Syrian Islamic and secular insurgents fighting to topple the Syrian government. Many have labeled the struggle as a proxy war between US and Russian interests in the middle east, in a highly unstable region. Between 500-700 civilians have been killed by coalition airstrikes, and over 50,000 ISIL militants and pro-bashad fighters have been killed. 1 From 2011 up to the present day, the US ousted Mummar Gaddafi in Libya, and began conducting an extensive bombing campaign(>110 tomahawk cruise missiles) in the Libyan Civil Wars of 2011 and 2014. This includes 7,700 air strikes, resulting in 30,000 -100,000 deaths. Loyalist towns were bombed to rubble and ethnically cleansed, and the country is in chaos as Western-trained and armed Islamist militias seize territory and oil facilities and vie for power. The Misrata militia, trained and armed by Western special forces, is one of the most violent and powerful in the world.1 In 2010, Chelsea Manning's leak of the Iraq War Logs revealed US army reports on civilian deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan; 66,081 out of 109,000 recorded deaths were civilians. They show that US authorities failed to investigate hundreds of reports of abuse, torture, rape and even murder by Iraqi police and soldiers, and that US troops killed almost 700 civilians for coming too close to checkpoints, including pregnant women and the mentally ill, and countless other atrocities.1 From 2000 up to the present day, the US has been carrying out a campaign of drone strikes and asassinations in the Middle East and Africa, including Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Somalia, resulting in thousands of civilian deaths, including women, children, and US citizens. 1 Drone strikes are used by the military and the CIA to hunt down and kill people the Obama administration has deemed — through secretive processes, without indictment or trial — worthy of execution. Drone strike targets are usually pinpointed through cell phone usage. The Obama asassination complex is detailed in the drone papers. On 3 October 2015, a United States Air Force AC-130U gunship attacked and killed 42 people and wounded 30 more in the Kunduz Trauma Centre operated by Doctors Without Borders, in northern Afghanistan. The airstrike constitutes a war crime(attacks on hospitals are considered war crimes), and is the first instance of one Nobel peace prize winner(Obama) bombing and killing another(Doctors without borders). CNN and the New York Times deliberately obscured the US's responsibility for the bombing, with the headline, "US is blamed after bomb hits afghan hospital". 1,2 On 22 August 2008, A US airstrike killed ~90 civilians, mostly children, in the village of Azizabad, Afghanistan. 1 On July 6 2008, the US bombed a wedding party and killed 47 Afghan civilians in the Haska Meyna Wedding party airstrike. The first bomb hit a group of children who were ahead of the main procession, killing them instantly. A few minutes later, the aircraft returned and dropped a second bomb in the center of the group, killing a large number of women. The bride and two girls survived the second bomb, but were killed by a third bomb while trying to escape from the area. Hajj Khan, one of four elderly men who were escorting the party, stated that his grandson was killed and that there were body parts everywhere. 1 On September 16, 2007, employees of Blackwater (since renamed Academi), a private military company, killed 17 Iraqi civilians and injured 20 more in the Nisour Square massacre, revealing a wide-spread policy to employ and enable private security firms to use deadly force. 1 On July 12, 2007, US AH-64 Apache helicopters bombed and killed ~15 Iraqi civilians, including two reuters journalists, and wounding two children, in Al-Amin al-Thaniyah, New Baghdad. The attacks received worldwide coverage following the leaking of 39 minutes of classified gunsight footage, in a video released by wikileaks titled collateral murder. 22-year-old American Army intelligence analyst, Chelsea Manning (then known as Bradley Manning) was arrested for leaking the video, along with a video of another airstrike and around 260,000 diplomatic cables, to WikiLeaks. She was being held in prison under the Espionage act, a law used to jail dissidents, intended to prohibit any interference with military operations, until early 2017. 1 On May 9, 2006, U.S. troops executed 3 male Iraqi detainees at the Muthana Chemical Complex, called the Iron Triangle Murders.1 On April 26, 2006 in the Hamdania incident, US troops killed an unarmed civilian, staging a fake firefight to cover it up. Members of the squad shot the stolen AK-47 rifle into the air to make it sound like a firefight was occurring, and after the Iraqi man was dead, the Marines scattered the expended AK-47 brass next to the body, removed the plastic restraints, and placed the rifle next to the body.1 On March 15, 2006, 11 Iraqi civilians were bound and executed by US troops in the Ishaqi incident. 1 On March 12, 2006, US Soldiers gang raped and killed a 14-year-old Iraqi girl named Abeer Qassim Hamza al-Janabi, and murdered her parents, and her six year old sister, in the Mahmudiyah rape and killings. 1 Beginning in 2005, the U.S. government secretly encouraged and advised a Pakistani Balochi militant group named Jundullah that is responsible for a series of deadly guerrilla raids inside Iran.[85] ABC News learned from tribal sources that money for Jundullah was routed to the group through Iranian exiles. “They are suspected of having links to Al Qaeda and they are also thought to be tied to the drug culture," according to Professor Vali Nasr.[87] U.S. intelligence sources later claimed that the orchestration of Jundallah operations was, in actuality, an Israeli Mossad false flag operation that Israeli agents disguised to make it appear to be the work of American intelligence.[90] On November 19, 2005, a group of US marines killed 24 unarmed men, women and children in the city of Haditha in Western Iraq. Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich admitted to telling his men to "shoot first and ask questions later". The eight marines were found not guilty of voluntary manslaughter. 1 In 2004, accounts of physical, psychological, and sexual abuse, including torture(whitewashed as enhanced interrogation techniques), rape, sodomy, and homicide of prisoners held in the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq came to public attention, revealing a systemic policy of torture during the Iraq war, primarily perpetrated by US Military police, and the CIA. Many of the torture techniques used were developed at Guantánamo detention centre, including prolonged isolation; sensory deprivation to induce psychosis, a sleep deprivation program whereby people were moved from cell to cell every few hours so they couldn’t sleep for days, weeks, even months, short-shackling in painful positions; nudity; extreme use of heat and cold; the use of loud music and noise and preying on phobias. Many, such as Manadel al-Jamadi, were tortured to death. 1 On May 20, 2004, A US airstrike killed 42 civilians attending a wedding, in the Mukaradeeb wedding party massacre. 1 On April 14, 2004, Lieutenant Ilario Pantano of the United States Marine Corps, killed two unarmed captives. Lieutenant Pantano claimed that the captives had advanced on him in a threatening manner. All charges were dropped, and he received an honorable discharge. 1 In april, 2004, the US military lied to the family of Pat Tillman, a famous american athlete turned soldier, surrounding his death by friendly fire, and used a fake heroic story about his death as a recruiting poster. The jingoistic media coverage was created by the spin of several top US generals and Bush administration officials, who dictated a memo about how best to handle the embarrassing death of such a high profile soldier. This is chronicled in the documentary, A Tillman Story. 1 Starting with the Iraq war, the US increasingly began contracting private mercenary companies to do military operations. These private companies are authorized by the US to use lethal force. Blackwater, one such company known for its ruthless reputation for killing civilians, has been involved in various scandals, such as in Fallujah, and Nisour square. Its founder, Erik Prince, has close ties to the Trump administration. 1 On December 10, 2002, US military police, aided by the CIA, tortured and killed Dilawar, an Afghan taxi driver, at Baghram prison, highlighting a scandal of torture and murder at the prison. Dilawar was chained to the ceiling of his cell, and suspended by his wrists for four days. His arms became dislocated from their sockets, and flapped around limplywhenever guards collected him for interrogation. During his detention, Dilawar's legs were beaten to a pulp. They would have had to have been amputated because damage was so severe. The murder and US torture complex is chronicled in the 2007 documentary Taxi to the Dark Side. 1 Since 2001, many enemy combatants have been held at the Guantanamo bay detention camp, a prison camp in Cuba in which suspected enemies are jailed indefinitely without trial. Several inmates have been severely tortured, leading much of the world to decry its existence as a human rights abuse. The military acts as interrogators, prosecutors and defense counsel, judges, and when death sentences are imposed, as executioners. All trials are held in private. Trump has vowed to keep the prison open, saying, "[...] I’d bring back a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding... Don’t tell me it doesn’t work—torture works... if it doesn't work, they deserve it anyway, for what they’re doing to us." 1 The attacks precipitated the signing into law in 2001 of the Patriot Act, which expanded the powers of the NSA to perform mass surveillance, allowed indefinite detention of immigrants, allowed warrant-less searching of phone and email records without a court order, . Thousands of people were jailed, and questioned under the new power the act granted to law enforcement agencies. Susan Lindauer, a congressional staffer turned activist, imprisoned from 2005-09 for violating the "acting as an agent of a foreign government" provision of the patriot act; the charges were later dropped after it was discovered no evidence ever existed. 1 The September 11th 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center in New York, provoked an international military campaign of middle east imperialism known as The War on Terror. Conflicts include the Nato led involvement in Afghanistan (2001–2014), the Insurgency in Yemen (1992–2015), the Iraq War (2003–2011), the War in North-West Pakistan (2004–present), and the International campaign against ISIL (2014–present). The enemy combatants of the war have mostly been people of the middle east. Casualty numbers are in the millions, detailed here. 1 Approximately 250,000[5] of the 697,000 U.S. veterans who served in the 1991 Gulf War are afflicted with an enduring chronic multi-symptom illness called Gulf War Syndrome. From 1995 to 2005, the health of combat veterans worsened in comparison with nondeployed veterans, with the onset of more new chronic diseases, functional impairment, repeated clinic visits and hospitalizations, chronic fatigue syndrome-like illness, posttraumatic stress disorder, and greater persistence of adverse health incidents.[7]. Suggested causes have included depleted uranium, sarin gas, smoke from burning oil wells, vaccinations, combat stress and psychological factors.1 In 1990, The U.S. liberates Kuwait from Iraq in the Gulf War. Iraq’s dictator, Saddam Hussein, was formerly backed by the US when his regime invaded Iran in 1980, and before that was hired by the CIA in a botched assassination attempt on the then Iraqi president. During this costly eight-year war, the CIA built up Hussein’s forces with sophisticated arms, intelligence, training and financial backing, cementing Hussein’s power at home, and allowing him to crush the many internal rebellions that erupted from time to time, sometimes with poison gas. 20,000–35,000 Iraqis were killed in the Gulf War, along with 75,000+ wounded. 1 In 1988, a US navy cruise missile shot down Iran Flight 655, killing its 290 civilian passengers. In 1996 As part of the settlement, the US did not admit legal liability or formally apologize to Iran but agreed to pay on an ex gratia basis $61.8 million. 1 In 1980, the US helped Turkish armed forces in the 1980 Turkish coup d'état, including supplying them with American-made Sikorski helicopters. 1 In 1980, the US funded and sold weapons to both sides in the Iran-Iraq War, hoping to destabilize the region and create a puppet regime favorable to US interests. Over 500,000 people died in the conflict. 1 From 1979-89, the CIA begins supplying arms and money ($630 million per year by 1987) to factions fighting against the soviets in their invasion of afghanistan, In what was known as Operation Cyclone. the U.S. government secretly provided weapons and funding for the Mujahadin Islamic guerillas of Afghanistan fighting to overthrow the Afghan government and the Soviet military forces that supported it. Supplies were channeled through the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) of Pakistan.[44][45][46] Although Operation Cyclone officially ended in 1989 with the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Afghanistan, U.S. government funding for the Mujahadin continued through 1992. Fanatical extremists now possess state-of-the-art weaponry, including Sheik Abdel Rahman, and Osama Bin Laden, who were later responsible for the 1993 and 2001 World Trade Center bombings in New York.1, 2 Since the 1960s, the US has given immense economic and military aid to Israel in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, which has taken 100,000 - 200,000 lives. The US has used its UN veto power to block a two-state solution countless times. 1 In 1958, Eisenhower authorized Operation Blue Bat, an invasion of 14,000 US troops in the ongoing civil war in Lebanon. This was the first application of the Eisenhower Doctrine under which the U.S. announced that it would intervene to protect regimes it considered threatened by international communism. The goal of the operation was to bolster the pro-Western Lebanese government of President Camille Chamoun against internal opposition and threats from Syria and Egypt. 1 In 1953, the CIA in Iran overthrows the democratically elected Mohammed Mossadegh in a military coup, after he threatened to nationalize British oil. The CIA replaces him with a dictator, the Shah of Iran, whose secret police, SAVAK, is as brutal as the Gestapo. After the initial coup failed and the Shah and his family fled to Italy, the CIA payed millions of dollars to bribe military officers and pay gangsters to unleash violence in the streets of Tehran. 1 In 1949, the US aided a Syrian coup d'état. The democratically elected government of Shukri al-Quwatli was overthrown by a junta led by the Syrian Army chief of staff at the time, Husni al-Za'im,who became President of Syria on 11 April 1949. The exact nature of US involvement in that coup is still highly controversial. However, it is well documented that the construction of the Trans-Arabian Pipeline, which had been held up in the Syrian parliament, was approved by Za'im just over a month after the coup.1 Western hemisphere In 2017, Hurricane Maria hit Puerto Rico, leaving 3.4 million without electricity and fuel, and causing an estimated $50 Billion in damage. 55% of Puerto Ricans have no potable water, in one of the worst humanitarian crises in decades. In marked contrast to the initial relief efforts for Hurricane Katrina and the 2010 Haiti earthquake, on September 22 the only signs of relief efforts were beleaguered Puerto Rican government employees. The US response has been dismal, leading many to believe that the US prefers a decapitalized Puerto Rico. On September 29, San Juan Mayor Cruz held a press conference to plead for aid and to highlight failures by FEMA, saying, "This is what we got last night. Four pallets of water, three pallets of meals, and 12 pallets of infant food — which, I gave them to the people of Comerío, where people are drinking off a creek. So I am done being polite. I am done being politically correct. I am mad as hell." Cruz continued. "So I am asking the members of the press, to send a mayday call all over the world. We are dying here... And if it doesn't stop, and if we don't get the food and the water into people's hands, what we are going to see is something close to a genocide." In response President Donald Trump wrote on Twitter: "Such poor leadership ability by the Mayor of San Juan and others in Puerto Rico, who are not able to get their workers to help." 1 Following a series of terrorist attacks against Cuba (such as the bombing of Cuban commercial flight 455, that originated from anti-Castro Cuban exile groups in the US, such as Alpha 66, the F4 Commandos, the Cuban American National Foundation, and Brothers to the Rescue), the Cuban government sent spies to infiltrate these insurgent groups operating in Miami. Afterwards, the Cuban government then provided 175 pages of documents to FBI agents investigating Posada Carriles's (a former CIA operative) role in the 1997 terrorist bombings in Havana, but the FBI failed to use the evidence to follow up on Posada. Instead, they used it to uncover and imprison the Cuban spies, known as the Cuban Five. [18][19]. The Cuban Five said they were spying on Miami's Cuban exile community, not the US government. They were imprisoned from 1998, until their eventual release via a prisoner swap in 2014. The terrorist bomber Posada Carriles (who admitted to planning 6 bombings of Havana Hotels and Restaurants) is currently being safeguarded by the US government, and resides in Miami. 1 In 2009, a coup in Honduras has led to severe repression and death squad murders of political opponents, union organizers and journalists. At the time of the coup, U.S. officials denied any role in the coup and used semantics to avoid cutting off U.S. military aid as required under U.S. law. But two Wikileaks cables revealed that the U.S. Embassy, and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, was the main power broker in managing the aftermath of the coup and forming a government that is now repressing and murdering its people, including popular leader Berta Cáceres. The two men who killed Berta Cáceres A former soldier with the US-trained special forces units of the Honduran military asserted that Caceres' name was included on a hitlist distributed to them months before her assassination.[66] According to a February 2017 investigation by The Guardian, court papers purport to show that three of the eight people arrested in connection with the assassination are linked to the US-trained elite troops. Two of them, Maj Mariano Díaz and Lt Douglas Giovanny Bustillo, received military training in the US.[67] 1 In 1990 in Haiti, Competing against 10 comparatively wealthy white candidates, leftist priest Jean-Bertrand Aristide captures 68 percent of the vote. A few months later, the CIA-backed military deposes him in a coup. More military dictators brutalize the country, as thousands of Haitian refugees escape the turmoil in barely seaworthy boats. The CIA "paid key members of the coup regime forces, identified as drug traffickers, for information from the mid-1980s at least until the coup."[66] Coup leaders Cédras and François had received military training in the United States. As popular opinion calls for Aristide’s return, the CIA begins a disinformation campaign painting the courageous priest as mentally unstable.1 In 1989, The U.S. invades Panama to overthrow a dictator of its own making, General Manuel Noriega, with the stated goal of "Defending democracy and human rights in Panama". Noriega had been on the CIA’s payroll since 1966, collecting at least $100,000 per year from the U.S. Treasury. As he rose to be the de facto ruler of Panama, he became even more valuable to the CIA, reporting on meetings with Fidel Castro and Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua and supporting U.S. covert wars in Central America, and had been transporting drugs with the CIA’s knowledge since 1972. By the late 80s, Noriega’s growing independence and intransigence had angered Washington. Between 500-4,000 people died in the US invasion. 1 In 1987, the former CIA Station Chief in Angola in 1976, John Stockwell, testified to Congress and told a grisly tale of US involvement on behalf of business interests in Latin America. He cited covert operations in Nicaragua, Panama, Guatemala, Haiti, the Dominican Republic, and Cuba. Over the course of his testimony, he estimated that given the bombings of water supplies and other essential infrastructure, the invasions, the coups, that the United States, on its quest for empire, has been responsible for 6,000,000 deaths. The CIA retaliated by suing him into bankruptcy. 1 From 1982-89, The U.S. government attempted to topple the government of Nicaragua by secretly arming, training and funding the Contras, a terrorist group based in Honduras that was created to sabotage Nicaragua and to destabilize the Nicaraguan government.As part of the training, the CIA distributed a detailed "terror manual" entitled "Psychological Operations in Guerrilla War," which instructed the Contras, among other things, on how to blow up public buildings, to assassinate judges, to create martyrs, and to blackmail ordinary citizens. In 1986, the Nicaraguan government under the Sandinistas shoots down a C-123 transport plane carrying military supplies to the Contras. The lone survivor, Eugene Hasenfus, turns out to be a CIA employee, as are the two dead pilots, contradicting Reagan's claims that the US was not aiding the contras. 1 In the 1980s the CIA supported Battalion 316, a torture/assasination squad in Honduras, which kidnapped, tortured and killed hundreds of its citizens. Battalion 316 used shock and suffocation devices in interrogations , and prisoners often were kept naked and, when no longer useful, killed and buried in unmarked graves. Declassified documents and other sources show that the CIA and the U.S. Embassy knew of numerous crimes, including murder and torture, yet continued to support Battalion 316 and collaborate with its leaders. 1 In 1980, In El Salvador, The Archbishop of San Salvador, Oscar Romero, pleads with President Carter to stop aiding the military government slaughtering his people. Carter refuses. Right-wing leader Roberto D’Aubuisson has Romero shot through the heart while saying Mass. The country soon dissolves into civil war, with the peasants in the hills fighting against the military government. The CIA and U.S. Armed Forces supply the government with overwhelming military and intelligence superiority, training death squads to roam the countryside, committing atrocities like that of El Mozote in 1982, where 800 civilians were massacred. By 1992, some 63,000 Salvadorans were killed. Back then Salvador was controlled by a mafia of 13 families who owned 50% of the land and wealth. The 13 families were heavily linked with the United States. CIA provided weapons and military training to the Salvadorean Army. As soon as the CIA discovered the priests were indoctrinating the masses, they began killing them. In 1979, The CIA began to destabilize Grenada after Maurice Bishop became president, for his marxist, pro-cuba, anti-racism, and anti-apartheid stances. Under Bishop's leadership, Women were given equal pay and paid maternity leave, and sex discrimination was made illegal. Organisations for education (Center for Popular Education), health care, and youth affairs (National Youth Organization) were also established. The campaign against him resulted in his overthrow and the invasion by the U.S. of Grenada on October 25, 1983, with about 277 people dying. In 1979, the US-backed dictator Anastasios Samoza II falls, beginning the popular Nicaraguan Revolution. Remnants of his Guard will become the Contras, who fight a CIA-backed guerilla war against the left-wing Sandinista government throughout the 1980s, with Reagan authorizing covert support to anti-Sandinista forces. 1 In 1976, several CIA-linked anti-Castro Cuban exiles and members of the Venezuelan secret police DISIP were responsible for a terrorist bomb attack on Cuban flight 455, killing 73 people. CIA venezuelan operative Luis Posada Carriles, one of the bombers, fled and was granted amnesty in the US in 2007. 1 In 1976, The CIA backed an overthrow of Argentinan leader Isabel Martínez de Perón by right wing anti-communist dictator Jorge Rafael Videla. In 1983, two years after the return of a representative democratic government, he was prosecuted in the Trial of the Juntas for large-scale human rights abuses and crimes against humanity that took place under his rule, including kidnappings or forced disappearance, widespread torture and extrajudicial murder of activists, and political opponents as well as their families at secret concentration camps, and harboring nazis. An estimated 13,000 -30,000 political dissidents vanished during this period. Videla was also convicted of the theft of many babies born during the captivity of their mothers at the illegal detention centres and passing them on for illegal adoption by associates of the regime. In his defence, Videla maintains the female guerrilla detainees allowed themselves to fall pregnant in the belief they wouldn't be tortured or executed. 1 On 11 September 1973, The CIA backed a military coup to remove democratically elected socialist president Salvador Allende, in favor of right-wing dictator Augusto Pinochet. His US-supported regime was characterized by the systematic suppression of political parties and the persecution of dissidents to an extent that was unprecedented in the history of Chile, backed by the neoliberal free-market economic policies of the Chicago Boys. Over-all, the regime left over 3,000 dead or "dissappeared", tortured thousands of prisoners, and forced 200,000 Chileans into exile. He's known for the Villa Grimaldi, a torture complex, and his Caravan of Death, a Chilean Army death squad guilty of countless atrocities, including dropping pregnant women and teenagers out of helicopters in the ocean, and executions where prisoners were shot by parts, over extended periods of time. 1 In 1971 in Bolivia, after half a decade of CIA-inspired political turmoil, a CIA-backed military coup overthrows the leftist President Juan Jose Torres, eventually being kidnapped and murdered by CIA backed right wing death squads, as part of Operation Condor. In the next two years, dictator Hugo Banzer will have over 2,000 political opponents arrested without trial, then tortured, raped and executed. In 1971, A CIA operative told a reporter he delivered a strain of the African Swine Fever virus from an army base in the Canal Zone to anti-Castro Cubans. An outbreak of the disease then occurred in Cuba, resulting in the slaughter of 500,000 pigs to prevent a nationwide animal epidemic. It was labeled the "most alarming event" of 1971 by the United Nations Food and Agricultural Organization.1 Starting in the 1970s, a CIA-backed coalition of right wing governments in Argentina, Ecuador, Peru, Chile, Uruguay, Paraguay, Bolivia and Brazil, began Operation Condor, a campaign of political repression and state terror involving intelligence operations and assassination of opponents, with the stated aim of "eliminating Marxist subversion." Victims included dissidents and leftists, union and peasant leaders, priests and nuns, students and teachers, intellectuals and suspected guerillas. An estimated 30,000 to 80,000 leftists or sympathizers were killed. 1 In 1969, amid a collapsing economy, labor and student strikes in Uruguay, CIA operative Dan Mitrione initiates a campaign of torture and violence against the left-wing student group Tuparamos. Former Uruguayan police officials and CIA operatives stated Mitrione had taught torture techniques to Uruguayan police, including the use of electrical shocks delivered to his victims' mouths and genitals. It has been alleged that he used homeless people for training purposes, who were executed once they had served their purpose.1 In 1968, a CIA-organized military operation in Bolivia led by cuban exile and CIA agent Félix Rodríguez captures legendary guerilla Che Guevara, defeating the Ñancahuazú Guerrilla. The Bolivian president ordered his immediate execution to prevent worldwide calls for clemency, and the drama of a trial. Nazi war criminal Klaus Barbie aka "The Butcher of Lyon", advised and possibly helped the CIA orchestrate Guevara's eventual capture.1 In 1965, The US intervened in the Dominican Civil War, providing air support and 1,700 marines. This later transformed into an Organization of American States occupation of the country. 1 In 1964, A CIA-backed military coup in Brazil overthrows the democratically elected government of Joao Goulart. The junta that replaces it will, in the next two decades, become one of the most bloodthirsty in history. General Castelo Branco will create Latin America’s first death squads, or bands of secret police who hunt down "communists" and political opponents for torture, interrogation and murder. Later it is revealed that the CIA trains the death squads. Thousands were tortured, and hundreds were killed. In the 1962 Cuban missile crisis, the Joint Chiefs of Staff unanimously agreed that a full-scale nuclear attack and invasion was the only solution, nearly plunging the world into nuclear war. 1 From 1961 onward, The US School of Americas, a US Department of Defense institute in Fort Benning, Georgia, was assigned the specific goal of teaching "anti-communist counterinsurgency training," to CIA-supported right wing paramilitaries. It trained more than 19,000 students from 36 countries in the western hemisphere, including several Latin American dictators, and, during the 1980s, included torture in its curriculum. 1 In 1961, in Ecuador, the CIA-backed military forces the democratically elected President José María Velasco Ibarra to resign. Vice President Carlos Arosemana replaces him; the CIA fills the now vacant vice presidency with its own man. 1 In 1961, the CIA assassinated Rafael Trujillo, a murderous dictator responsible for the deaths of more than 50,000 people, who Washington had supported since 1930. Trujillo’s business interests had grown so large (about 60 percent of the economy) that they had begun competing with American business interests. The US later provided troops on the side of the loyalists in the 1965 Dominican civil war, to ensure US interests. 1 After the Failed bay of pigs invasion, the CIA began Operation Mongoose, a series of covert operations to disrupt and destabilize Cuba. The operation included economic warfare, including an embargo against Cuba, “to induce failure of the Communist regime to supply Cuba's economic needs,” a diplomatic initiative to isolate Cuba, and psychological operations “to turn the peoples' resentment increasingly against the regime.”[32] The economic warfare prong of the operation also included the infiltration by the CIA of operatives to carry out many acts of sabotage against civilian targets, such as a railway bridge, a molasses storage facilities, an electric power plant, and the sugar harvest, notwithstanding Cuba’s repeated requests to the United States government to cease its terrorist operations.[33][32] In addition, the CIA orchestrated a number of assassination attempts against Fidel Castro, head of government of Cuba, including attempts that entailed CIA collaboration with the American mafia. 1 In 1961, the CIA sent 1,500 Cuban exiles to invade Castro’s Cuba in the failed Bay of Pigs Invasion. B26 bombers attacked cuban airfields, providing initial air support. The planners had imagined that the invasion would spark a popular uprising against Castro -– which never happened. Several hundred were killed in the action. 1 In 1959, following the US occupation of Haiti, The U.S. military helps "Papa Doc" Duvalier become dictator of Haiti. He creates his own private police force, the Tonton Macoutes, who terrorize the population with machetes. They kill over 100,000 during the Duvalier family reign. The U.S. does not protest their dismal human rights record. In 1958, The United States supported the Batista dictatorship in Cuba. Batista aligned with the wealthiest landowners who owned the largest sugar plantations, and presided over a stagnating economy that widened the gap between rich and poor Cubans. Eventually most of the sugar industry was in U.S. hands, and foreigners owned 70% of the arable land. As such, Batista's increasingly corrupt and repressive government then began to systematically profit from the exploitation of Cuba's commercial interests, by negotiating lucrative relationships with both the American Mafia, who controlled the drug, gambling, and prostitution businesses in Havana, and with large U.S.-based multinational companies who were awarded lucrative contracts. To quell the growing discontent amongst the populace—which was subsequently displayed through frequent student riots and demonstrations—Batista established tighter censorship of the media, while also utilizing his Bureau for the Repression of Communist Activities secret police to carry out wide-scale violence, torture and public executions; ultimately killing anywhere from hundreds to 20,000 people. After the Cuban revolution, the CIA launched a long campaign of terrorism against Cuba, training Cuban exiles in Florida, Central America and the Dominican Republic to commit assassinations and sabotage in Cuba. These include the cuban embargo, and over 638 failed assasination attempts on fidel castro. 1 In 1954, the CIA overthrows the democratically elected Guatemalen Jacobo Árbenz in a military coup in operation PBSucess. Arbenz threatened to nationalize the Rockefeller-owned United Fruit Company, in which CIA Director Allen Dulles also owns stock. Arbenz is replaced with a series of US-backed right-wing dictators whose bloodthirsty policies will kill over 100,000 Guatemalans in the next 40 years, until 1996. The coup has been described as the definitive deathblow to democracy in Guatemala.1 In 1941, the US used its contacts in the Panama National Guard, which the U.S. had earlier trained, to have the government of Panama overthrown in a bloodless coup. The U.S. had requested that the government of Panama allow it to build over 130 new military installations inside and outside of the Panama Canal Zone, and the government of Panama refused this request at the price suggested by the U.S. In Smedley Butler's(A former US general and medal of honor recipient) 1935 pamphlet, War is a Racket, he recounted his experience as being an agent of American Imperialism: “I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.”1 In 1928, the Columbian army killed ~80 striking workers in Cienaga, Columbia, after the US threatened to invade with U.S. Marine Corps troops if the Colombian government did not act to protect the United Fruit Company's interests, in the Banana Massacre. The banana plantation workers were demanding written contracts, eight-hour work days, six-day work weeks and the elimination of food coupons. The troops set up their machine guns on the roofs of the low buildings at the corners of the main square, closed off the access streets, and after a five-minute warning opened fire into a dense Sunday crowd of workers and their wives and children who had gathered, after Sunday Mass, to wait for an anticipated address from the governor. 1 From 1916-24, the US occupied the Dominican Republic, with repeated actions in 1903, 1904, and 1914. 1 From 1915–34, Haiti was occupied by the US, which led to the creation of a new Haitian constitution in 1917 that instituted changes that included an end to the prior ban on land ownership by non-Haitians. Including the First and Second Caco Wars.[13] At least 15,000 Haitians were killed. 1 In 1914, the US military invaded Veracruz, Mexico, after US sailors were arrested by the Mexican government for entering off-limits areas, in the Tampico Affair. Over 200 were killed in the invasion. In 1912, the US military invaded Nicaragua after intermittent landings and naval bombardments in the previous decades. It was occupied by the U.S. almost continuously from 1912 through 1933. With the onset of the Great Depression and Augusto C. Sandino's Nicaraguan guerrilla troops fighting back against U.S. troops, it became too costly for the U.S. government and a withdrawal was ordered in 1933. In 1903 the US backed its puppet state Panama's secession from Columbia. The Panama Canal was under construction by then, and the Panama Canal Zone, under United States sovereignty, was then created. The zone was transferred to Panama in 2000.1 In 1899, after a popular revolution in the Philippines to oust the Spanish imperialists, the US invaded and began the Phillipine-American war. The US military committed countless atrocities, leaving 200,000 Filipinos dead. From 1895-1917, the Banana Wars refers to the military intervention on behalf of US business interests in Central America and the Caribbean(8 countries in total) after the Spanish American War. In Honduras, for example, the United Fruit Company and Standard Fruit Company dominated the country's key banana export sector and associated land holdings and railways, and saw insertion of American troops in 1903, 1907, 1911, 1912, 1919, 1924 and 1925. 1 In 1896, the US fought the Spanish-American War largely over economic interests in the Caribbean, primarily Cuba. Historian Eric Foner writes: "Even before the Spanish flag was down in Cuba, U.S. business interests set out to make their influence felt. Merchants, real estate agents, stock speculators, reckless adventurers, and promoters of all kinds of get-rich schemes flocked to Cuba by the thousands. Seven syndicates battled each other for control of the franchises for the Havana Street Railway, which were finally won by Percival Farquhar, representing the Wall Street interests of New York. Thus, simultaneously with the military occupation began . . . commercial occupation." 1 In 1883, the US engineered the overthrow of its native monarch, Queen Lili'uokalani . Due to the Queen's desire "to avoid any collision of armed forces, and perhaps the loss of life" for her subjects and after some deliberation, at the urging of advisers and friends, the Queen ordered her forces to surrender. Hawaii was initially reconstituted as an independent republic, but the ultimate goal of the revolutionaries was the annexation of the islands to the United States, which was finally accomplished in 1898.1 In 1846, the US sent a small force into Mexico with the aim of bringing about a war, and started the Mexican-American War. The US prevailed, expanding its territory far into Mexico, and killed ~25,000 mexicans in the process, as part of an ideological goal of white supremacy in north america called manifest destiny. The shift in the Mexico-U.S. border left many Mexican citizens separated from their national government. For the indigenous peoples who had never accepted Mexican rule, the change in border meant conflicts with a new outside power.1 Africa In early 2017, the US began conducting drone strikes in Somalia against Al Shabab militants. An attack on July 16th killed 8 people. 1 In 1998, the US bombed the Al Shifa pharmaceutical factory in Sudan, killing one employee and wounding 11. It was the largest pharmaceutical factory in Khartoum, producing medicine both for human and veterinary use. The US had acted on false evidence of a VX nerve agent from a single soil sample, and later used a false witness to cover for the attack. 1 In June 1982, with the help of CIA money and arms, Hissene Habre , dubbed Africa's Pinochet, takes power in Chad. His secret police, use methods of torture including the burning the body of the detainee with incandescent objects, spraying gas into their eyes, ears and nose, forced swallowing of water, and forcing the mouths of detainees around the exhaust pipes of running cars. Habré's government also periodically engaged in ethnic cleansing against groups such as the Sara, Hadjerai and the Zaghawa, killing and arresting group members en masse when it was perceived that their leaders posed a threat to the regime. In May 2016 he was found guilty of human-rights abuses, including rape, sexual slavery and ordering the killing of 40,000 people, and sentenced to life in prison. 1 In the 1980s, Reagan maintains a close relationship with the Apartheid South african government, called constructive engagement, while secretly funding it in the hopes of creating a bulwark of anti-communism and preventing a marxist party from taking power, as happened in angola. 1 In 1975, Henry Kissinger launches a CIA-backed war in Angola, backing the brutal anti-communist leader of UNITAS, Jonas Savimbi, against the Marxist-Leninst MPLA party, creating a civil war lasting for 30 years. Congress continues to fund UNITAS, and their south-african apartheid allies until the late 1980s. By the end of the war, more than 500,000 people had died and over one million had been internally displaced. 1 In 1966, a CIA-backed military coup overthrows he widely popular Pan-Africanist and Marxist leader Kwame Nkrumah in Ghana, inviting the International Monetary Fund and World Bank to take a lead role in managing the economy. With this reversal, accentuated by the expulsion of immigrants and a new willingness to negotiate with apartheid South Africa, Ghana lost a good deal of its stature in the eyes of African nationalists.1 In 1965, a CIA-backed military coup installs Mobutu Sese Seko, described as the "archetypal African dictator" in Congo. The hated and repressive Mobutu exploits his desperately poor country for billions.1 In 1961, the CIA assists in the assassination of the democratically elected congolese leader Patrice Lumumba, throwing the country into years of turmoil. 1 Asia Between 1996-2006, The US has given money and weapons to royalist forces against the nepalese communists in the Nepalese civil war. ~18,000 people have died in the conflict. 1 In 1996, after receiving incredibly low approval ratings, the US helped elect Boris Yeltsin, an incompetent pro-capitalist independent, by giving him a $10 Billion dollar loan to finance a winning election. Rather than creating new enterprises, Yeltsin's democratization led to international monopolies hijacking the former Soviet markets, arbitraging the huge difference between old domestic prices for Russian commodities and the prices prevailing on the world market. Much of the Yeltsin era was marked by widespread corruption, and as a result of persistent low oil and commodity prices during the 1990s, Russia suffered inflation, economic collapse and enormous political and social problems that affected Russia and the other former states of the USSR. Under Yeltsin, Between 1990 and 1994, life expectancy for Russian men and women fell from 64 and 74 years respectively to 58 and 71 years. The surge in mortality was “beyond the peacetime experience of industrialised countries”. While it was boom time for the new oligarchs, poverty and unemployment surged; prices were hiked dramatically; communities were devastated by deindustrialisation; and social protections were stripped away.1,2 In 1975 Australian Constitutional Crisis, the CIA helped topple the democratically elected, left-leaning government of Prime Minister Gough Whitlam, by telling Governor-General, John Kerr, a longtime CIA collaborator, to dissolve the Whitlam government. Between 1963 and 1973, The US dropped ~388,000 tons of napalm bombs in vietnam, compared to 32,357 tons used over three years in the Korean War, and 16,500 tons dropped on Japan in 1945. US also sprayed over 5 million acres with herbicide, in Operation Ranch Hand, in a 10 year campaign to deprive the vietnamese of food and vegetation cover. 1,2 In 1971 in Pakistan, an authoritarian state supported by the U.S., brutally invaded East Pakistan in the Indo-Pakistani war of 1971. The war ended after India, whose economy was staggering after admitting about 10 million refugees, invaded East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) and defeated the West Pakistani forces. The US gave W. pakistan 411 million provided to establish its armed forces which spent 80% of its budget on its military. 15 million in arms flowed into W. Pakistan during the war. Between 300,000 to 3 million civilians were killed, with 8-10 million refugees fleeing to India. 1 In 1970, In Cambodia, The CIA overthrows Prince Sihanouk, who is highly popular among Cambodians for keeping them out of the Vietnam War. He is replaced by CIA puppet Lon Nol, whose forces suppressed the large-scale popular demonstrations in favour of Sihanouk, resulting in several hundred deaths.1 This unpopular move strengthens once minor opposition parties like the Khmer Rouge(another CIA supported group), who achieve power in 1975 and massacres ~2.5 million people. 1 In 1969, The US initiated a secret carpet bombing campaign in eastern Cambodia, called, Operation Menu, and Operation Freedom Deal in 1970. An estimated 40,000 - 150,000 civilians were killed. Nixon lied about this campaign, but was later exposed, and one of the things that lead to his impeachment. 1 US dropped large amounts of Agent Orange, an herbicide developed by monsanto and dow chemical for the department of defense, in vietnam. Its use, in particular the contaminant dioxin, causes multiple health problems, including cleft palate, mental disabilities, hernias, still births, poisoned breast milk, and extra fingers and toes, as well as destroying local species of plants and animals. The Red Cross of Vietnam estimates that up to 1 million people are disabled or have health problems due to Agent Orange.1 US Troops killed between 347 and 504 unarmed civilians, including women, children, and infants, in South Vietnam on March, 1968, in the My Lai Massacre. Some of the women were gang-raped and their bodies mutilated. Soldiers set fire to huts, waiting for civilians to come out so they could shoot them. For 30 years, the three US servicemen who tried to halt the massacre and rescue the hiding civilians were shunned and denounced as traitors, even by congressmen. 1 In 1967, the CIA helped South Vietnamese agents identify and then murder alleged Viet Cong leaders operating in villages, in the Phoenix Program. By 1972, Phoenix operatives had executed between 26,000 and 41,000 suspected NLF operatives, informants and supporters.1 In 1965, The CIA overthrew the democratically elected Indonesian leader Sukarno with a military coup. The CIA had been trying to eliminate Sukarno since 1957, using everything from attempted assassination to sexual intrigue, for nothing more than his declaring neutrality in the Cold War. His successor, General Suharto, aided by the CIA, massacred between 500,000 to 1 million civilians accused of being communist, in the Indonesian mass killings of 1965-66. The US continued to support Suharto throughout the 70s, supplying weapons and planes. From the 1960s onward, the US supported Filipino dictator Ferdinand Marcos. The US provided hundreds of millions of dollars in aid, which was crucial in buttressing Marcos's rule over the years. The estimated number of persons that were executed and disappeared under President Fernando Marcos was over 100,000. After fleeing to hawaii, marco was suceeded by the widow of an opponent he assasinated, Corazon aquino. 1 Starting in 1957, in the wake of the US-backed First Indochina War, The CIA carries out approximately one coup per year trying to nullify Laos’ democratic elections, specifically targeting the Pathet Lao, a leftist group with enough popular support to be a member of any coalition government, and perpetuating the 20 year Laotian civil war. In the late 50s, the CIA even creates an "Armee Clandestine" of Asian mercenaries to attack the Pathet Lao. After the CIA’s army suffers numerous defeats, the U.S. drops more bombs on Laos than all the U.S. bombs dropped in World War II. A quarter of all Laotians will eventually become refugees, many living in caves. 1 In 1955, the CIA provided explosives, and aided KMT agents in an assassination attempt against the Chinese Premier, Zhou Enlai. KMT agents placed a time-bomb on the Air India aircraft, Kashmir Princess, which Zhou was supposed to take on his way to the Bandung Conference, an anti-imperialist meeting of Asian and African states, but he changed his travel plans at the last minute. Henry Kissinger denied US involvement, even though remains of a US detonator were found. 16 people were killed. 1 From 1955-1975, the US supported French colonialist interests in Vietnam, set up a puppet regime in Saigon to serve US interests, and later took part as a belligerent against North Vietnam in the Vietnam War. U.S. involvement escalated further following the 1964 Gulf of Tonkin incident, which was later found to be staged by Lyndon Johnson. The war exacted a huge human cost in terms of fatalities (see Vietnam War casualties). Estimates of the number of Vietnamese soldiers and civilians killed vary from 966,000[29] to 3.8 million.[50] Some 240,000–300,000 Cambodians,[51][52][53] 20,000–62,000 Laotians,[50] and 58,220 U.S. service members also died in the conflict, with a further 1,626 missing in action. 1 In the beginning of the Korean war, US Troops killed ~300 South Korean civilians in the No Gun Ri massacre, revealing a theater-wide policy of firing on approaching refugee groups. Trapped refugees began piling up bodies as barricades and tried to dig into the ground to hide. Some managed to escape the first night, while U.S. troops turned searchlights on the tunnels and continued firing, said Chung Koo-ho, whose mother died shielding him and his sister. No apology has yet been issued. 1 In the summer of 1950 in South Korea, anticommunists aided by the US executed at least 100,000 people suspected of supporting communism, in the Bodo League Massacre. For four decades the South Korean government concealed this massacre. Survivors were forbidden by the government from revealing it, under suspicion of being communist sympathizers. Public revelation carried with it the threat of torture and death. During the 1990s and onwards, several corpses were excavated from mass graves, resulting in public awareness of the massacre. 1 The US intervened in the 1950-53 Korean Civil War, on the side of the south Koreans, in a proxy war between the US and china for supremacy in East Asia. South Korea reported some 373,599 civilian and 137,899 military deaths, the US with 34,000 killed, and China with 114,000 killed.[16] Overall, the U.S. dropped 635,000 tons of bombs—including 32,557 tons of napalm—on Korea, more than they did during the whole Pacific campaign of World War II.[305][306] The Joint Chiefs of staff issued orders for the retaliatory bombing of the People's republic of China, should south Korea be attacked. Deadly clashes have continued up to the present day. 1 From 1948-1949, the Jeju uprising was an insurgency taking place in the Korean province of Jeju island, followed by severe anticommunist suppression of the South Korean Labor Party in which 14-30,000 people were killed, or ~10% of the island's population. Though atrocities were committed by both sides, the methods used by the South Korean government to suppress the rebels were especially cruel. On one occasion, American soldiers discovered the bodies of 97 people including children, killed by government forces. On another, American soldiers caught government police forces carrying out an execution of 76 villagers, including women and children. The US later entered the Korean civil war on the side of the South Koreans. 1 In 1949 during the resumed Chinese Civil War, the US supported the corrupt Kuomintang dictatorship of Chiang Kaishek to fight against the Chinese Communists, who had won the support of the vast majority of peasant-farmers and helped defeat the Japanese invasion. The US strongly supported the Kuomintang forces. Over 50,000 US Marines were sent to guard strategic sites, and 100,000 US troops were sent to Shandong. The US equipped and trained over 500,000 KMT troops, and transported KMT forces to occupy newly liberated zones as well as to contain Communist-controlled areas.[51] American aid included substantial amounts of both new and surplus military supplies; additionally, loans worth hundreds of millions of dollars were made to the KMT.[59] Within less than two years after the Sino-Japanese War, the KMT had received $4.43 billion from the US—most of which was military aid.[51]1 The U.S. installed Syngman Rhee,a conservative Korean exile, as President of South Korea in 1948. Rhee became a dictator on an anti-communist crusade, arresting and torturing suspected communists, brutally putting down rebellions, killing 100,000 people and vowing to take over North Korea. Rhee precipitated the outbreak of the Korean War and for the allied decision to invade North Korea once South Korea had been recaptured. He was finally forced to resign by mass student protests in 1960.1 Between 1946 and 1958, the US tested 23 nuclear devices at Bikini Atoll. Significant fallout caused widespread radiological contamination in the area. Afterwards both locations proved unsuitable to sustaining life, resulting in starvation and requiring the residents to receive ongoing aid. Virtually all of the inhabitants showed acute symptoms of radiation syndrome. A handful were brought to the US for medical research and later returned, while others were evacuated to neighboring Rongerik Atoll and kili Island. When the majority returned 3 years later, radion levels were still unacceptable. Similar incidents occurred elsewhere in the Marshall Islands during this time period. Due to the destruction of natural wealth, Kwajalein Atoll's military installation and dislocation, the majority of natives currently live in extreme poverty, making less than 1$ a day. Those that have jobs, mostly work at the US military installation and resorts.1,2 US Troops committed a number of rapes during the battle of Okinawa, and the subsequent occupation of Japan. There were 1,336 reported rapes during the first 10 days of the occupation of Kanagawa prefecture alone.1 American Occupation authorities imposed wide-ranging censorship on the Japanese media, including bans on covering many sensitive social issues and serious crimes such as rape committed by members of the Occupation forces.2 From 1942 to 1945, the US military carried out a fire-bombing campaign of Japanese cities, killing between 200,000 and 900,000 civilians. One nighttime fire-bombing of Tokyo took 80,000 lives. During early August 1945, the US dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, killing ~130,000 civilians, and causing radiation damage which included birth defects and a variety of genetic diseases for decades to come. The justification for the civilian bombings has largely been debunked, as the entrance of Russia into the war had already started the surrender negotiations earlier in 1945. The US was aware of this, since it had broken the Japanese code and had been intercepting messages during for most of the year. The US ended up accepting a conditional surrender from Hirohito, against which was one of the stated aims of the civilian bombings. The dropping of the atomic bomb is therefore seen as a demonstration of US military supremacy, and the first major operation of the Cold War with Russia. 1 In 1918, the US took part in the allied intervention in the Russian civil war, sending 11,000 troops to the in the Arkhangelsk and Vladivostok regions to support the anti-bolshevik, monarchist, and largely anti-semitic White Forces. 1 In 1900 in China, the US was part of an Eight-Nation Alliance that brought 20,000 armed troops to China, to defeat the Imperial Chinese Army, in the the Boxer Rebellion, an anti-imperialist uprising. 1 Europe From March to June of 1999, After Serbs refused to acquiesce in the break-up of their republic, the US and NATO began bombing Yugoslavia killing ~3000 civilians, leaving thousands homeless, destroying bridges, industrial plants, public buildings, private businesses, as well as barracks and military installations. 1, 2 In 1995, the US conducted a campaign of airstrikes called Operation Deliberate Force, as part of an intervention in the Bosnian civil war. 1 Throughout the 1980-90s, the US, with the aid of the IMF and NATO, actively destabilized and aided in the breakup of Yugoslavia, with the goal of weakening and destroying the last surviving socialist bloc in Europe. These include stirring up ethnic tensions between the member countries, economic warfare, and military intervention. The Reagan administration in a 1982 secret memo, advocated "expanded efforts to promote a 'quiet revolution' to overthrow Communist governments and parties," while reintegrating the countries of Eastern Europe into a market-oriented economy. In November 1990, the Bush administration pressured Congress into passing the 1991 Foreign Operations Appropriations Act, which provided that any part of Yugoslavia failing to declare independence within six months would lose U.S. financial support, demanded separate elections in each of the six Yugoslav republics, and mandated U.S. State Department approval of both election procedures and results as a condition for any future aid. In 1991, Yugoslav Army chief Veljko Kadijević stated: "An insidious plan has been drawn up to destroy Yugoslavia. Stage one is civil war. Stage two is foreign intervention. Then puppet regimes will be set up throughout Yugoslavia." 1, 2, 3 In 1967 in Greece, the CIA installed Georgios Papadopoulos, a CIA agent and former nazi collaborator, as the military ruler of Greece. He's seen today as an relic of authoritarianism , xenophobia, and anti-communism. 1 In 1956, Radio Free Europe(a CIA funded propaganda outlet) broadcasts Khruschev’s Secret Speech, which played a role in the Hungarian revolution, and also hinted that American aid will help the Hungarians fight. The US fails to provide any military aid to Hungary in their ensuing conflict with the Soviet Union. 1 From 1948 onwards, the CIA under Allen Dulles developed a program of media manipulation called Project Mockingbird, having major influence over the media, including >25 newspapers. The usual method was placing reports developed from intelligence provided by the CIA to cooperating or unwitting reporters, or employing media directly as american assets.1 In 1948, the CIA corrupts the elections in Italy, where Italian communists threaten to win the elections. The CIA buys votes, broadcasts propaganda, threatens and beats up opposition leaders, and infiltrates and disrupts their organizations. The communists are defeated.1,2 In 1947, in Greek civil war and ensuing right wing military junta of 1967-74, Truman and the CIA provided money, 74,000 tons of military equipment, and advisors to support anti-communist Greek dictators with deplorable human rights records. Support for right-wing dictatorships in Greece and Turkey were funded and sold under the Truman Doctrine, an anti-soviet foreign policy platform, despite the fact that it was Yugoslavia who provided support to the Gr [ Braxi @ 05.02.2018. 13:20 ] @
jel moze da malo vidimo i ruske arhive. Npr kako su rusili Obrenovica preko radikala pa konacno gurnuli Srbiju na Austriju. Rezultat milion mrtvih. Ili kad su dojahali 1944 u BG postavili Tita prognali monarhiste i pobili 70,000 ljudi ? Ili kad su preko Madjarske slali Hrvatima kalasnjikove 1990...
[ belbeg @ 05.02.2018. 13:28 ] @
@Braxi,
taman te malo pohvalim a ti sve upropastiš? Payge je rusofil, što je evidentno, i potrudio se da ocrni američku demokratiju. Moraš i ti da se malo potrudiš i da pronađeš argumente za rusku "demokratiju". Očekivati to od paygea je isto kao od tebe očekivati da napadaš USA?! Zato daj malo ozbiljnosti i razbij ga. Argumenti su na tvojoj strani dok je sve što je on citirao obična propaganda još iz vremena KGB-a. [ Braxi @ 05.02.2018. 13:28 ] @
koju rusku demokratiju ?
[ payge @ 05.02.2018. 13:29 ] @
Braksi:
Citat: jel moze da malo vidimo i ruske arhive. Otvorio si temu da velicamo USA lik i delo, ja krenuo da citiram, postarao se a ti sad oces Ruse i lazi o njima. Stvarno si pajser. [ belbeg @ 05.02.2018. 13:32 ] @
Citat: Braxi: koju rusku demokratiju ? Video si da sam to stavio pod navodnike. To je da preveslamo paygea...jer je on ubeđen da je u Rusiji demokratija. [ dusanboss @ 05.02.2018. 13:38 ] @
Citat: belbeg: Braxi, Ljudstvo danas nije presudno nego oružje i tehnika. Ako posmatraš samo sa aspekta vojne sile, odavno i USA i Rusija raspolažu hidrogenskim bombama (ili nečim i jačim) koje su dovoljnje da unište sve tako da pisanje o broju stanovnika nema ama baš nikakvog smisla. Nadam se da će razum pobediti i da će se sporovi rešavati, kao i posle svakog rata, za stolom. Ljudi koji rezonuju kao ti dovode do konflikta. Ne znam baš. Kroz istoriju je u glavnom pobedu uzmao onaj koji ima značajnu prednost u ljudstvu uprkos eventualnoj tehnološkoj inefriornosti. [ belbeg @ 05.02.2018. 13:45 ] @
Citat: dusanboss: Ne znam baš. Kroz istoriju je u glavnom pobedu uzmao onaj koji ima značajnu prednost u ljudstvu uprkos eventualnoj tehnološkoj inefriornosti. Nemožeš porediti koplja i rakete, konje i avione, mahovinu na drvetu i satelitsku navigaciju. Inače, još u davna vremena, Aleksandar makedonski je sa brojčano daleko manjom vojskom razbio armadu cara Darija i pokorio Persiju. [ Boris Tadić @ 05.02.2018. 13:49 ] @
Čija je gorila?
[ anon70939 @ 05.02.2018. 14:17 ] @
nicija nije gorila do zore
[ Steve Lonmo @ 05.02.2018. 14:17 ] @
Citat: Braxi: Madjarska 1956... Nevini neistomišljenici u Mađarskoj, uoči sovjetske intervencije '56, uspostavljaju demokratiju i ljudska prava... Jedno od svedočenja preživelih tokom demokratizacije Mađarske... Citat: Bivšeg natporučnika državne bezbednosti izveli su vezanog u dvorište. Bio je sadistički mučen. Prvo su ga tukli po nogama i drugim delovima tela dok nije pao, a zatim su ga za noge obesili o banderu. Potom mu je jedan oficir dugačkim nožem nanosio udare u stomak. Zatim su mu odsekli uvo, pa tetive iznad kolena. Žrtva je još bila živa kada je u dvorište uvedena žena od 28 godina koja je odmah počela da moli da je tako ne ubijaju jer je majka troje dece. Onaj sa nožem joj je, ipak, prišao i ubo je. Odmah je pala. Posle još jednog uboda sam pomislio da je već mrtva. Tada su nas odveli u podrum... Gubici tokom sovjetske intervencije: Sovjetska armija - 720 poginulo, 1.540 ranjeno i 51 "nestalo". Mađari - 2.502 poginulo i 19.229 ranjeno. ... pokazuju koliko je, i nakon demokratskih zverstava, Sovjetska armija pažljivo intervenisala. --- Je li Braxi, kakav je odnos bio u npr. Vijetnamu, ili Iraku...? Ne moramo da uzimamo u obzir što Amerikance u Vijetnam, ni u Irak niko nije zvao. Kao što ni milion i po mađarskih vojnika, koji su po zverstvima nad civilima ostali upamćeniji i od samih Nemaca, niko nije 1941. zvao u Sovjetski Savez. [ Braxi @ 05.02.2018. 14:29 ] @
bas me briga kakav je odnos bio u Vijetnamu !
[ vladd @ 05.02.2018. 14:41 ] @
Nije bilo dovoljno filmova o Vijetnamu, kao o gvozdenoj zavesi
[ belbeg @ 05.02.2018. 14:46 ] @
Tako je Braxi. Argumenti su na tvojoj strani čak i kada nemaš dokaza za iste jer su Rusi po difoltu loši i šta još treba dokazivati.
Zamisli tek sveži bezobrazluk, sud u Lozani oslobodio ruske sportiste od optužbi za doping i još im vratio medalje. Sad bi oni još i na olimpijadu da idu?! Pa oni nisu normalni, šta zamišljaju. Potplatili sudije i misle da su nad preveslali? [ Braxi @ 05.02.2018. 15:09 ] @
haha, ti si smesan. Kojim tonom si to rekao kao da ja imam nekakve veze sa tim !?
Nisam ja kriv sto je reputacija Srbije i Rusije na zapadu takva kakva jeste. O tome je trebalo ranije misliti ! E ali onda je svako ko drugacije misli bi strani placenik i izdajnik. Sada samo jedete sto ste skuvali. [ belbeg @ 05.02.2018. 15:11 ] @
Ok, jest da ti nemaš veze s bilo čim ali se zato trudiš. Ja trud cenim.
[ Braxi @ 05.02.2018. 15:17 ] @
Citat: vladd: Nije bilo dovoljno filmova o Vijetnamu, kao o gvozdenoj zavesi :D jos samo kad bi ti znao sta je bio Vijetnamski rat. Severni Vijetnam je pomagao Vijetkong u juznom Vijetnamu. I posto vlada u Sajgonu nije mogla da izadje na kraj sa njima pozvala je SAD. Slicno kao sto je i El-Asad pozvao Ruse sada npr u Siriji. Potpuno analogan slucaj. Naravno dok su Amerikanci branili J. Vijetnam Rusi i Kinezi su se cerekali iza kulisa svo vreme doturajuci oruzje Sev. Vijetnamu i Vijetkongu. To sto su ovi ginuli kao komarci to Ruse i Kineze nije zanimalo. (Kad su njih zanimali i njihovi zivoti a kamoli tudji ?). Pogledajte kako izglkedaju i gde su danas zemlje koje je branila i podrzavala Amerika, a gde su klijenti Rusije i Kine. Nebo i zemlja. [ Bradzorf012 @ 05.02.2018. 15:27 ] @
Ko je jači? Čiji je veći?
Kao neko ko ne voli USA i ono što rade po svetu, rekao bih da je USA sila broj jedan još uvek i pored svih spanja koja rade po svetu. Neko reče da je Rusija sila u opadanju i tu je u pravu, ali taj trend se ne može predvideti dugoročno, ni za opadanje Rusije, niti za uzdizanje Kine i Indije. Takođe, ne može se predvideti ni za USA. Po meni, suviše velika carstva su u pitanju da bismo kao pojedinci u svom kratkom životu mogli da vidimo finale nekog većeg potresa koji vodi u propast. Rusiji i Kini nedostaje demokratija, neću reći američkog tipa jer sve to varira od zemlje do zemlje i ne može biti u detalj isto. Osim demokratije Kini nedostaje i vojna moć, a Rusiji stanovništvo. Takođe im nedostaje politički uticaj koji u ovom trenutku raste i kod jednih i kod drugih. Amerikanci doživljavaju debakl poslednjih godina, ponašaju se kao slon u staklarskoj radnji, pa ih to hebe. E sad, Rusi traju nekih hiljadu godina, bili su i ostali sila, ali su zenit doživeli kao SSSR pre nekoliko decenija. Staljin je od zaostale poljoprivredne zemlje napravio supersilu sa najmoćnijim nuklearnim arsenalom, a zatim su prvi poslali čoveka u svemir. Sve to u uslovima Prvog svetskog rata, revolucije, a kasnije i Drugog svetskog rata u kom su podneli najveće žrtve. U svojim najboljim danima pravili su pet posto svetskog bdp-a, ako ne i više, mrzi me da tražim. Carstvo je imalo 220 - 230 miliona podanika, a ako uzmemo u obzir i satelite u istočnom bloku, kao i saveznike širom sveta imali smo respektabilnu silu koja je vladala polovinom zemaljske kugle. Tehničko tehnološki bili su na nivou zapada, ako ne i ispred. Međutim, ono gde su se zeznuli, to je onaj marksov dijalektički materijalizam, tj. verovanje u sirove brojke, kao i nesposobnost da se naučno tehnološki napredak spusti iz sfere vojnih i kosmičkih istraživanja među narod. Prosto, narod je uvek željan komfora, hoće stanove, automobile, telefone, letovanja, putovanja, krpice. Narod hoće džidža bidže, kao deca, a u SSSR-u je bila pogrešna procena da je to suvišno. To ih je na kraju koštalo i pada iako su vojno bili jači od amerikanaca ili bar egal. Ako žele da ostanu na sceni, moraće da porade na pravima pojedinaca, na ličnim slobodama i jednom kako bih to rekao, otvorenijem društvu. Kinu najviše hebe tehnološki zaostatak i pamet. Znam, mnogi se neće složiti, a reći ću da se i sam divim onome što su uradili i rade: od potrošačke elektronike do autoindustrije. Međutim, sećam se jedne vesti kao kroz maglu. Došli su do nekog ruskog vojnog aviona, ne znam da li su ga imali legalno kroz neki ugovor. Uglavnom, pokušali su i uspeli da ga iskopiraju, ali avaj, nisu uspeli da ga osposobe da leti. Rusi su tu maheri, uostalom jedini imaju tehnologiju za let u svemir, a dokaz za to je kosmička stanica i čuveni raketni dvigatelj(raketni motor) RD - 180. Najpre su ga prodavali amerikancima, a zatim su im prodali i licencu, ali i pored toga, čemerikanci nisu uspeli da ga naprave. Čak su se vodile i rasprave u kongresu oko tog motora, koji je gle čuda izuzet od sankcija. Trebalo bi reći i to da Kina traje nekih pet hiljada godina, a to nije mala stvar. Amerikanci su nekada imali moćnu autoindustriju i Boing, ali od ove prve izgleda da neće ostati mnogo. Ono što imaju, to je protestantsko, anglosaksonsko nasleđe koje su briti posadili na pola sveta i koje se uspešno primilo. Dovoljno je pogledati zemlje komonvelta, Južnu Afriku, Australiju, Novi Zeland i Kanadu. Bogata multikulturna društva, gde te niko ne pita da li si crn, žut ili beo, da li veruješ u boga i kojeg ili ne veruješ. Pitan si jedino kako možeš da doprineseš društvu(preciznije, kompaniji za koju radiš), a da li u slobodno vreme ideš u crkvu ili se seksaš sa svojim istopolnim partnerom tvoja je lična stvar. U vezi sa tim, trebalo bi reći da imaju najveći potencijal da privuku stanovništvo, pa se bukvalno moraju braniti od navale imigranata. To uopšte nije mala stvar, naročito imajući u vidu da su u stanju da pokupe krem iz ostatka sveta, što obrazovane, što bogate svejedno. Poznat je fenomen da bogati Kinezi ne pitaju za cenu i doslovno troše milijarde, kada šalju svoju decu na školovanje u USA ili kada kupuju nekretnine po Australiji i Kanadi. Ono što je takođe veoma zanimljivo, u tim društvima ima mesta za svakog, pa je tako neki zadrti tradicionalista spreman da ode iz svog sela u beli svet. U svom selu možda nije mogao da vidi muško koje nosi minđušu ili sunarodnika koji živi sa druge strane reke/planine, pa se sa njim možda gledao i preko nišana, ali u je u tom novom svetu spreman ako treba, da radi i sa crnim đavolom ili da gleda gej paradu. Na kraju, Amerikanci traju svega par stotina godina, što je prilično manje od Rusa, o Kinezima da i ne govorimo. Da li je to prednost ili ne, ne znam, čini mi se da jeste. Indija je ovde nepoznanica, a jedino što trenutno imaju je stanovništvo. Ok, ljudi su najveće bogatstvo, ali to nije dovoljno, tako da sigurno još dugo dugo neće moći da se približe prethodno pobrojanoj trojci. Na kraju, ne bi trebalo davati nikakve prognoze za bilo šta. Jedino što je bitno, to je da ne bude nekog većeg spanja u vidu pritiskanja crvenih dugmića, a ja verujem da neće. Mogao bih samo da kažem šta bih voleo, a to je da svet bude raznolik, pa biraj gde ti volja i šta ti volja. [Ovu poruku je menjao Bradzorf012 dana 05.02.2018. u 17:28 GMT+1] [ payge @ 05.02.2018. 15:27 ] @
Lesi: Citat: Pogledajte kako izglkedaju i gde su danas zemlje koje je branila i podrzavala Amerika Ma da, gangnam style i konjosanje od jutra do sutra. [ mb57 @ 05.02.2018. 16:04 ] @
U bre, ovde žurka sve sa muzikom a za bubnjevima virtouz Braxi.
Citat: Bradzorf012: Rusiji i Kini nedostaje demokratija..... Ako žele da ostanu na sceni, moraće da porade na pravima pojedinaca, na ličnim slobodama i jednom kako bih to rekao, otvorenijem društvu. Pošto ti je post većeg sadržaja, izdvojio sam ono što bi voleo da mi objasniš. Odmah da kažem, interesuje me Rusija. Živim u Rusiji i voleo bi da mi ti objasniš na osnovu čega, kojih pokazatelja misliš da u Rusiji nema demokratije i ličnih slobodai ostalog što si pobrojao? Ako nije teško, reci mi šta je to po tebi demokratija i gde si je lično video, doživeo i kako. [ Braxi @ 05.02.2018. 16:11 ] @
Citat: Bradzorf012: Ko je jači? Čiji je veći? Kao neko ko ne voli USA i ono što rade po svetu, rekao bih da je USA sila broj jedan još uvek i pored svih spanja koja rade po svetu. Neko reče da je Rusija sila u opadanju i tu je u pravu, ali taj trend se ne može predvideti dugoročno, ni za opadanje Rusije, niti za uzdizanje Kine i Indije. Takođe, ne može se predvideti ni za USA. Po meni, suviše velika carstva su u pitanju da bismo kao pojedinci u svom kratkom životu mogli da vidimo finale nekog većeg potresa koji vodi u propast. Rusiji i Kini nedostaje demokratija, neću reći američkog tipa jer sve to varira od zemlje do zemlje i ne može biti u detalj isto. Osim demokratije Kini nedostaje i vojna moć, a Rusiji stanovništvo. Takođe im nedostaje politički uticaj koji u ovom trenutku raste i kod jednih i kod drugih. Amerikanci doživljavaju debakl poslednjih godina, ponašaju se kao slon u staklarskoj radnji, pa ih to hebe. E sad, Rusi traju nekih hiljadu godina, bili su i ostali sila, ali su zenit doživeli kao SSSR pre nekoliko decenija. Staljin je od zaostale poljoprivredne zemlje napravio supersilu sa najmoćnijim nuklearnim arsenalom, a zatim su prvi poslali čoveka u svemir. Sve to u uslovima Prvog svetskog rata, revolucije, a kasnije i Drugog svetskog rata u kom su podneli najveće žrtve. U svojim najboljim danima pravili su pet posto svetskog bdp-a, ako ne i više, mrzi me da tražim. Carstvo je imalo 220 - 230 miliona podanika, a ako uzmemo u obzir i satelite u istočnom bloku, kao i saveznike širom sveta imali smo respektabilnu silu koja je vladala polovinom zemaljske kugle. Tehničko tehnološki bili su na nivou zapada, ako ne i ispred. Međutim, ono gde su se zeznuli, to je onaj marksov dijalektički materijalizam, tj. verovanje u sirove brojke, kao i nesposobnost da se naučno tehnološki napredak spusti iz sfere vojnih i kosmičkih istraživanja među narod. Prosto, narod je uvek željan komfora, hoće stanove, automobile, telefone, letovanja, putovanja, krpice. Narod hoće džidža bidže, kao deca, a u SSSR-u je bila pogrešna procena da je to suvišno. To ih je na kraju koštalo i pada iako su vojno bili jači od amerikanaca ili bar egal. Ako žele da ostanu na sceni, moraće da porade na pravima pojedinaca, na ličnim slobodama i jednom kako bih to rekao, otvorenijem društvu. Kinu najviše hebe tehnološki zaostatak i pamet. Znam, mnogi se neće složiti, a reći ću da se i sam divim onome što su uradili i rade: od potrošačke elektronike do autoindustrije. Međutim, sećam se jedne vesti kao kroz maglu. Došli su do nekog ruskog vojnog aviona, ne znam da li su ga imali legalno kroz neki ugovor. Uglavnom, pokušali su i uspeli da ga iskopiraju, ali avaj, nisu uspeli da ga osposobe da leti. Rusi su tu maheri, uostalom jedini imaju tehnologiju za let u svemir, a dokaz za to je kosmička stanica i čuveni raketni dvigatelj(raketni motor) RD - 180. Najpre su ga prodavali amerikancima, a zatim su im prodali i licencu, ali i pored toga, čemerikanci nisu uspeli da ga naprave. Ćak su se vodile i rasprave u kongresu oko tog motora, koji je gle čuda izuzet od sankcija. Trebalo bi reći i to da Kina traje nekih pet hiljada godina, a to nije mala stvar. Amerikanci su nekada imali moćnu autoindustriju i Boing, ali od ove prve izgleda da neće ostati mnogo. Ono što imaju, to je protestantsko, anglosaksonsko nasleđe koje su briti posadili na pola sveta i koje se uspešno primilo. Dovoljno je pogledati zemlje komonvelta, Južnu Afriku, Australiju, Novi Zeland i Kanadu. Bogata multikulturna društva, gde te niko ne pita da li si crn, žut ili beo, da li veruješ u boga i kojeg ili ne veruješ. Pitan si jedino kako možeš da doprineseš društvu(preciznije, kompaniji za koju radiš), a da li u slobodno vreme ideš u crkvu ili se seksaš sa svojim istopolnim partnerom tvoja je lična stvar. U vezi sa tim, trebalo bi reći da imaju najveći potencijal da privuku stanovništvo, pa se bukvalno moraju braniti od navale imigranata. To uopšte nije mala stvar, naročito imajući u vidu da su u stanju da pokupe krem iz ostatka sveta, što obrazovane, što bogate svejedno. Poznat je fenomen da bogati Kinezi ne pitaju za cenu i doslovno troše milijarde, kada šalju svoju decu na školovanje u USA ili kada kupuju nekretnine po Australiji i Kanadi. Ono što je takođe veoma zanimljivo, u tim društvima ima mesta za svakog, pa je tako neki zadrti tradicionalista spreman da ode iz svog sela u beli svet. U svom selu možda nije mogao da vidi muško koje nosi minđušu ili sunarodnika koji živi sa druge strane reke/planine, pa se sa njim možda gledao i preko nišana, ali u je u tom novom svetu spreman ako treba, da radi i sa crnim đavolom ili da gleda gej paradu. Na kraju, Amerikanci traju svega par stotina godina, što je prilično manje od Rusa, o Kinezima da i ne govorimo. Da li je to prednost ili ne, ne znam, čini mi se da jeste. Indija je ovde nepoznanica, a jedino što trenutno imaju je stanovništvo. Ok, ljudi su najveće bogatstvo, ali to nije dovoljno, tako da sigurno još dugo dugo neće moći da se približe prethodno pobrojanoj trojci. Na kraju, ne bi trebalo davati nikakve prognoze za bilo šta. Jedino što je bitno, to je da ne bude nekog većeg spanja u vidu pritiskanja crvenih dugmića, a ja verujem da neće. Mogao bih samo da kažem šta bih voleo, a to je da svet bude raznolik, pa biraj gde ti volja i šta ti volja. vrlo lep post, procitao sam ga celog, imam samo jednu primedbu. Necu sad ulaziti u to ko ti se svidja ko ne, to je tvoja licna stvar. Zanima me samo na osnovu cega mislis da su Amerikanci doziveli debakl u svetu ? Koliko znam a i sam si konstatovao i dalje su najpozeljnija zemlja. Npr kod nas uprkos stalnoj udbaskoj propagandi i ratui protiv Amerike, a od skora i neprikrivrenom pomoci FSB, proruske stranke imaju maksimalno 10% birackog tela. Kako obajsnjavas taj fenomen, da li je mozda narod protiv naroda ili sta ? I kako se u t pricu uklapa debakl Amerike ? [ Braxi @ 05.02.2018. 16:18 ] @
Citat: mb57: U bre, ovde žurka sve sa muzikom a za bubnjevima virtouz Braxi. Citat: Bradzorf012: Rusiji i Kini nedostaje demokratija..... Ako žele da ostanu na sceni, moraće da porade na pravima pojedinaca, na ličnim slobodama i jednom kako bih to rekao, otvorenijem društvu. Pošto ti je post većeg sadržaja, izdvojio sam ono što bi voleo da mi objasniš. Odmah da kažem, interesuje me Rusija. Živim u Rusiji i voleo bi da mi ti objasniš na osnovu čega, kojih pokazatelja misliš da u Rusiji nema demokratije i ličnih slobodai ostalog što si pobrojao? Ako nije teško, reci mi šta je to po tebi demokratija i gde si je lično video, doživeo i kako. recimo da zivis u Rusiji. Ti i dalje ne ucestvujes u politickom zivotu. Kao stranac sigurno nemas pravo glasa, zatim ne znas kakve se sve zakulisne igre vode, ko batina, ko gde pravi bugarske vozove, kako i ko broji glasove itd itd... Ne znam gde si se ti onda mogao uveriti da u Rusiji demokratija funkcionise ili pak ne funkcionise ? Sto se tice licnih sloboda, mozemo reci da je bolje nego za vreme Staljina. Dok ne cackas vlast. Ali i za vreme Breznjeva si mogao da radis i mislis sta hoces dok ne cackas vlast. Naravno Putin ipak mora, mada veoma nevoljno, (jer organski ne podnosi demokratiju) da pusti tu i tamo neku opoziciju i neki medij. Ne moze sad bas bas nista da nema. tako recimo je i Sloba pustio Studio B, mada je sam bio protiv. Putinov stil vladavine ne samo da nije neka tajna i da je treba posebno dokazivati vec se i sam Putin licno hvali da vlada po sopstvenom nahodjenju. I njegove pristalice tako misle. [ mb57 @ 05.02.2018. 16:22 ] @
Braxi, jbt, ti stvarno nisi u vinkli.
Znači, ja koji živim u Rusiji i to više godina nemam saznanja koje ti imaš a da nisi kročio u Rusiju? Zato sam i napisao da si virtouz za bubnjevima. [ revlo @ 05.02.2018. 16:24 ] @
Ne vidim šta je sporno sa Amerikancima? Da nije njih bili bi drugi na njihovom mestu. Inače Amerikanci su puno toga dobrog doneli ovom svetu, ali i lošega. Naš je problem što verujemo u pravdu a ne u moć jačega, pametnijeg itd... A Amerikanci po svojoj suštini su i jači i pametniji. To što nisu čistokrvni ameri nego uveženi to je druga priča. Prosečan amerikanac je glup i debeo. Ali avaj...
[ Braxi @ 05.02.2018. 16:29 ] @
Citat: mb57: Braxi, jbt, ti stvarno nisi u vinkli. Znači, ja koji živim u Rusiji i to više godina nemam saznanja koje ti imaš a da nisi kročio u Rusiju? Zato sam i napisao da si virtouz za bubnjevima. rekao sam ti vec da sam bio u Rusiji za razliku od tebe koji si bot. Ali to je potpuno irelevanto za ovu raspravu. Ti si stranac u Rusiji, a u Srbiji imas Srbe koji zive 60 godina u njoj i ne vide nsita devijantno u Vucicevoj vlasti bas kao sto im je nekad i Slobomir bili OK. Mucenim Srbima u Srbiji ne treba dodatno ni objasnjavati kakav je Putin i kako vlada jer smo mi to vec imali... Jedna ista preslikana skola. [ mb57 @ 05.02.2018. 16:50 ] @
Ne lupaj više, života ti.
Svakodnevno se na poslu susrećem sa velikim brojem ljudi i učestvujem u razgovorima o stanju u Rusiji (aktuelan je izbor za predsednika koji je 18 marta). Da li si u opšte svestan šta znači podrška naroda od preko 80%? Ima puno primedbi po pitanju unutrašnje politike ali malo po pitanju spoljne politike. Rusi su izuzetno ponosni i vole svoju zemlju. U vreme Jeljcina i prozapadnih liberala, zemlja je bilam u haosu a armija u raspadu. Masovno se izbegavalo služenje vojnog roka a danas je armija ponos svakom Rusu i broj mladih koji su podneli zahtev da budu profesionalni vojnici je takav da je to fenomen. Sankcije su pokrenule proizvodnju, posebno agrar, i Rusija je postalam lider u proizvodnji pšenice. Sve manje uvoze a sve više izvoze. Nafta, koja je bila najveći izvozni artikal sada je pala na treću poziciju. Korupcija se sve više iskorenjava. Hapse se do juče nedoirljivi ministri, gubernatori i isti osuđuju, što je ranije bilo nezamislivo. Nikome nije uskraćena bilo kakva sloboda koja je u skladu sa ustavom i vrednostima zemlje i naroda. Ako su uskraćena "prava" gej populaciji da paradira ulicama, to je zato što to zahteva preko 90% naroda. Ako je država zabranila sve NVO organizacije koje su finansirane iz inostranstva, to nije uskraćivanje slobode nego logičan postupak. Ako opozicija sakupi par hiljada ljudi na nekom trgu nije im kri nedostatak slobode i demokratije nego programam koji će privući narod. Možda tu ima i istorijskog nasleđa? Čitav milenijum Rusija je imala vladare po nasleđu a potom po partijskoj liniji i zato oni na izbore negledaju očima zapada. Ima tu još puno toga ali mi je smorno da pišem nekome ko je zadrt i koga vodi teška fobija a ne činjenice. P.S. Kad si bio u Rusiji, gde i koliko dugo? [ Braxi @ 05.02.2018. 17:13 ] @
Citat: mb57: Ne lupaj više, života ti. Svakodnevno se na poslu susrećem sa velikim brojem ljudi i učestvujem u razgovorima o stanju u Rusiji (aktuelan je izbor za predsednika koji je 18 marta). Da li si u opšte svestan šta znači podrška naroda od preko 80%? Ima puno primedbi po pitanju unutrašnje politike ali malo po pitanju spoljne politike. Rusi su izuzetno ponosni i vole svoju zemlju. U vreme Jeljcina i prozapadnih liberala, zemlja je bilam u haosu a armija u raspadu. Masovno se izbegavalo služenje vojnog roka a danas je armija ponos svakom Rusu i broj mladih koji su podneli zahtev da budu profesionalni vojnici je takav da je to fenomen. Sankcije su pokrenule proizvodnju, posebno agrar, i Rusija je postalam lider u proizvodnji pšenice. Sve manje uvoze a sve više izvoze. Nafta, koja je bila najveći izvozni artikal sada je pala na treću poziciju. Korupcija se sve više iskorenjava. Hapse se do juče nedoirljivi ministri, gubernatori i isti osuđuju, što je ranije bilo nezamislivo. Nikome nije uskraćena bilo kakva sloboda koja je u skladu sa ustavom i vrednostima zemlje i naroda. Ako su uskraćena "prava" gej populaciji da paradira ulicama, to je zato što to zahteva preko 90% naroda. Ako je država zabranila sve NVO organizacije koje su finansirane iz inostranstva, to nije uskraćivanje slobode nego logičan postupak. Ako opozicija sakupi par hiljada ljudi na nekom trgu nije im kri nedostatak slobode i demokratije nego programam koji će privući narod. Možda tu ima i istorijskog nasleđa? Čitav milenijum Rusija je imala vladare po nasleđu a potom po partijskoj liniji i zato oni na izbore negledaju očima zapada. Ima tu još puno toga ali mi je smorno da pišem nekome ko je zadrt i koga vodi teška fobija a ne činjenice. P.S. Kad si bio u Rusiji, gde i koliko dugo? Koliko god da si dugo u Rusiji nisi duze od Navaljnog niti si Rus kao on. Tako da prestani taj argument da potezes, jako si smesan. Idu ljudi u vojsku da se spasu bede. Drzavna sluzba je drzavna sluzba. Kad pobijes i pohapsis sve bitne opozicionare, a pri tom kao Vucic trubis sa drzavnih TV non stop, 80% podrske je neuspeh. Zatim, jako je cudno da neko sa tolikom podrskom ne sme da dodje ni na jedan tv duel sa protiv kandidatom. Na zadnjim parlamentarnim izborima u Moskvi i Piteru izlasnost je bila do 20% a putinova partija jedva prebacila. Nikako se ne moze govoriti o 80% podrske. Uostalom videces 18 marta. HAHA, kakvih crnih 80% pa on je jedva prebacio 50% pre sest godina. Putin se nalazi na celu korupcije. Naravno za potrebe izbora tu i tamo nekad nekoga malo skloni i "kazni" da se zadovolji masa. Meni nije samo jasno sto se ne proglasi za Cara. [ nemamstan @ 05.02.2018. 17:13 ] @
Citat: Braxi Ili kad su dojahali 1944 u BG postavili Tita prognali monarhiste Prvo, na koje monarhiste misliš? Na one "monarhiste" što su 1941 pobegli sa zlatom u London? Ili misliš na pijance koji se po kafanama busaju u prsa da su monarhisti? Drugo, nisu Rusi postavili Tita nego Jugosloveni kojih je bilo od Triglava do Djevdjelije. Tito je Jugoslaviju oslobodio od Rusa. Tako je bilo do omasovljenja "demokratije, srpstva, pravoslavlja i patriotizma" kada vidimo rusofiliju i monarhizam na delu i u punom "sjaju". [ Boris Tadić @ 05.02.2018. 17:13 ] @
Bolje Moskvič nego Mustang, balalajka - Stratocaster.
Bolje rusko vnogo nego američka torta. [ mb57 @ 05.02.2018. 17:24 ] @
Citat: Braxi:Koliko god da si dugo u Rusiji nisi duze od Navaljnog niti si Rus kao on. Tako da prestani taj argument da potezes, jako si smesan. Idu ljudi u vojsku da se spasu bede. Drzavna sluzba je drzavna sluzba. Kad pobijes i pohapsis sve bitne opozicionare, a pri tom kao Vucic trubis sa drzavnih TV non stop, 80% podrske je neuspeh. Zatim, jako je cudno da neko sa tolikom podrskom ne sme da dodje ni na jedan tv duel sa protiv kandidatom. Na zadnjim parlamentarnim izborima u Moskvi i Piteru izlasnost je bila do 20% a putinova partija jedva prebacila. Nikako se ne moze govoriti o 80% podrske. Uostalom videces 18 marta. HAHA, kakvih crnih 80% pa on je jedva prebacio 50% pre sest godina. Putin se nalazi na celu korupcije. Naravno za potrebe izbora tu i tamo nekad nekoga malo skloni i "kazni" da se zadovolji masa. Meni nije samo jasno sto se ne proglasi za Cara. Lepo sam napisao:"Ima tu još puno toga ali mi je smorno da pišem nekome ko je zadrt i koga vodi teška fobija a ne činjenice" Da li si svestan da sem tvog pisanja ispunjenog teškom fobijom, nemaš ni jedan valjani argument za bilo šta? Upravo takvi kao ti rade za Rusiju jer se u pisanju takvih kao ti oslikava sav jad i beda antiruske histerije. Iskreno, meni te je čak na neki način i žao. [ Braxi @ 05.02.2018. 17:27 ] @
Citat: mb57: Lepo sam napisao:"Ima tu još puno toga ali mi je smorno da pišem nekome ko je zadrt i koga vodi teška fobija a ne činjenice" Da li si svestan da sem tvog pisanja ispunjenog teškom fobijom, nemaš ni jedan valjani argument za bilo šta? Upravo takvi kao ti rade za Rusiju jer se u pisanju takvih kao ti oslikava sav jad i beda antiruske histerije. Iskreno, meni te je čak na neki način i žao. ajde vidimo se ovde 16. marta kad ti zvekne celavi KGBovac. [ belbeg @ 05.02.2018. 17:28 ] @
Braxi, nedaj se, argumenti su na tvojoj strani po difoltu.
Evo, i Boris Tadić se ukljucio u kampanju. Svakim danom sve više dobijaš podršku što samo govori da si u pravu. [ Braxi @ 05.02.2018. 17:31 ] @
Putin i Rusija sve vise su izolovani. Belorusija im okrece ledja. Kazakstan prelazi na latinicu !
Jeljcin je bio Bizmark za celavog. [ mb57 @ 05.02.2018. 17:31 ] @
Citat: Braxi:...ajde vidimo se ovde 16. marta kad ti zvekne celavi KGBovac. Prevedi mi ovo, ne kapiram šta si hteo reći? [ mb57 @ 05.02.2018. 17:39 ] @
Citat: Braxi: Putin i Rusija sve vise su izolovani. Belorusija im okrece ledja. Kazakstan prelazi na latinicu ! Jeljcin je bio Bizmark za celavog. Ne budu naivan. Videli Belorusi kako je prošla Ukrajina sa podrškom USA i EU i nepada im na pamet da eksperimentišu. Kazahstan. Zašto da ne pređu, imaju suvereno pravo jer su još uvek u potrazi za svojim identitetom. Prihvatili su rusku ćirilicu jer nisu imali zvanično pismo (zemlja bila sa puno plemena a svako pleme za sebe). Kada su pali pod vlast carske Rusije, u školama su učili pismo koje je bilo državno a pošto svoje nisu imali, prihvatili su ćirilicu kao svoje. Sad eksperimentiš ali, teško da će to proći tek tako. Zamisli sada da sve treba prevoditi na latinicu a u tu latin icu treba ubaciri slova svojsvena njihovom jeziku pa onda istom pismi učiti milione ljudi. Ako i pređu, proces će tajati minimum 50 godina. Nisam znao da je Bizmark bio alkos? [ payge @ 05.02.2018. 18:00 ] @
Citat: Boris Tadić: Bolje Moskvič nego Mustang, balalajka - Stratocaster. Bolje rusko vnogo nego američka torta. Bolje amerima plata 3000$ a nama 300$. Pa ti kupi sebi Stratocaster i Mustanga. [ Boris Tadić @ 05.02.2018. 18:12 ] @
Jaču platu ima Putin nego Tramp.
[ mb57 @ 05.02.2018. 18:22 ] @
Citat: Boris Tadić: Jaču platu ima Putin nego Tramp. https://mojazarplata.ru/main/z...p-paycheck/politician-salaries 1 evro = 70 rubalja [ Braxi @ 05.02.2018. 18:54 ] @
daleko od toga da Putin nema i zasluga. Ali preterao je.
[ Bradzorf012 @ 05.02.2018. 19:06 ] @
mb57
Ako dozvoliš, najpre bih napravio jednu malu digresiju. Nije mi običaj da govorim o diskutantima, ali ću sada sebi dati to pravo. Opusti se malo i pokušaj da manje daješ teze i zaključke, a više analize i sopstvene poglede i razmišljanja. Prilično si tvrd i nefleksibilan, a tu onda nema diskusija, nego samo dža bu. Ok? Da ti odgovorim na pitanja. Da ne okolišim mnogo, nego da gađam u sred srede. Teško mi je da ovo prevalim preko tastature, ali reći ću, pa kud puklo. Vidi, ja sam bio i verovatno sam još uvek tipična srbenda, koja nije videla mnogo od sveta izvan svog sela. Još mi samo fali šajkača i opanci, pa da budem kompletan. Zašto da krijem, ne da ne volim ili ne podnosim gejeve i lezbejke, ne volim ni one koji buše noseve i nose brnjice ili se tetoviraju. E sad, da mogu, smem, imam pravo, možda bih takve mlatio da se plave od batina. Međutim, dumajući dugo, shvatio sam nešto veoma bitno: njihovo telo, njihov život, njihova stvar, njihov izbor. To što se oni meni lično ne dopadaju, pa to je samo moj problem. Doduše, ni ne družim se sa takvima, pa mi i ne pada teško. Kada se to proširi na sva druga moguća pitanja, dolazi se do društva slobodnih pojedinaca, a ne do klana, plemena ili naroda. U takvim uslovima ne može da sazri individualna svest i jedinka sa integritetom, već samo polufabrikat neki bi rekli. Eto, to je ono o čemu govorim. Do pre sto dvesta godina u Srbiji, ali i šire, nisi mogao da biraš ženu ili muža, nego ti je/ga jednog lepog dana mama i tata dovedu i kažu ovo ti je žena/muž i doviđenja. Verujem da nije bilo ni razvoda, bar ne kao danas. Šta misliš, šta je uslovno rečeno bolje, da li bi se ti odrekao nekih prava i sloboda koja imaš danas, a koje nisu imali tvoj pradeda i čukundeda? Čovek danas i u Srbiji već od dvadesete polako, a do tridesete u potpunosti samostalno odlučuje o svom životu. Ništa mama tata, sam batice teraj kako znaš i umeš. Da li bi bio spreman da kao naši preci živiš u zajednici, pa se u domaćinstvu ne pitaš nizašta dok ti je tatko živ? Pubertetlija do šezdesete? Koliko god je udobno, toliko je i loše. Citat: Da li si u opšte svestan šta znači podrška naroda od preko 80%? Ne sumnjam u te podatke, ali nemoj misliti da je to toliko dobro. Da se razumemo, verujem da je Putin veliki državnik, čak da ima i harizmu i da će na kraju krajeva biti upamćen kao neko ko je vratio Rusiji ugled i slavu u svetu. Ali, ima tu nekih ali. Prvo, nije mu trebalo da menja ustav, da bi imao sada već ne znam koji po redu mandat. Naročito mu nije trebalo imajući u vidu to, da jednom tako velikom zemljom nikada ne vlada samo jedan čovek, bar ne danas. To nije samo pitanje političkih elita, Putin je u svemu tome nebitan. Bitan je kako ti kažeš narod, narod je uslovno rečeno problem što takvu većinsku podršku doživljava kao izraz demokratije. Vidiš šta se događa u USA, Trampa pljuju na sve strane, više sada kada je izabran, nego dok je bio samo kandidat. Tako bi trebalo i u Rusiji. Zviždi, protestuj, galami i psuj do mile volje, ko ti brani dok ne rušiš. Navaljni i ostali, ne samo da ga ne bi pobedili na izborima, nego bi se dodatno ispuvali. Dakle, meni ta podrška govori o nedostatku ideja i odsustvu pluralizma. Ima to veze i sa istorijskim nasleđem, ali ne mislim da je Putin diktator ili nekakvo čudovište kakvim ga predstavljaju na zapadu. Citat: Korupcija se sve više iskorenjava. Hapse se do juče nedoirljivi ministri, gubernatori i isti osuđuju, što je ranije bilo nezamislivo. To što ih neko hapsi slaba je uteha, ali bolje i to nego ništa. U Kini su verovatno još veće represije po tom pitanju, ali kada je u pitanju tako velika zemlja, možda druge metode i ne postoje. Treba sve to držati na okupu da se ne raspadne, a to nije lako bez pendreka. Citat: Nikome nije uskraćena bilo kakva sloboda koja je u skladu sa ustavom i vrednostima zemlje i naroda. Citat: Ako su uskraćena "prava" gej populaciji da paradira ulicama, to je zato što to zahteva preko 90% naroda. E vidiš, upravo je u tome stvar. Etimološki, demokratija jeste vladavina naroda, ali je ovo što si ti naveo pogrešno shvatanje. Ovo je kao kada bi rekao, većina zahteva da pobijemo crnce i cigane, šta se bunite, pa mi smo većina. Ako je neko većina, onda ima mandat da vrši vlast, ali to ne znači da ima pravo da teroriše manjinu, da joj uskraćuje bilo koja prava ili je ućutkuje. Bilo koja manjina da je u pitanju, etnička, verska, ideološka ili neka petnaesta. Još jednom da kažem, ne verujem da je u Rusiji diktatura, danas je svet jedno globalno selo i takve stvari teško mogu da prođu bilo gde, možda se može reći da su u pitanju nijanse. Vidiš, slučajno sam video juče vest da se u BG-u okupilo sto i pedeset demonstranata koji su paradirali u znak podrške Ljotiću, sa sve ikonografijom koja podseća na naciste, a i pozdrav je bio pravi zighajl. Vidi, njih ne bih mlatio kao derepe, nego bih ih tako olešio od batina da završe u kolicima i da se celog života hrane na cevčicu. Ali, nije u tome poenta. Dok god ne ruši ili se ne služi nasiljem, ima pravo da protestuje i galami 24 časa dnevno, a to što sam ja većina i što mi se ne dopada, potpuno je nebitno. Shvataš? Protiv takvih pojava u društvu bi se trebalo boriti, ali ne pendrekom. Nekada je za to korišćen goli otok, ali danas su takve metode nedopustive. Za ostale, pozitivne stvari koje si naveo, drago mi je zbog toga, zaista. Braxi Više ti ne smeta kada pišem opširne postove? Što se Amerike tiče, ne znam da li su najpoželjnija destinacija, ali jedna od najpoželjnijih jesu, u to nema sumnje. Možda je debakl teška reč, ali je evidentno da su od intervencije u Iraku i kasnije u Libiji počeli da gube uticaj u svetu. Imajući u vidu da je on bio takoreći nemerljiv, to nije neka nenadoknadiva šteta, ali je problem što su u sve lošijim odnosima i sa tradicionalnim saveznicima. U Siriji su ga ispušili od Rusa i tu se jasno vidi njihovo povlačenje. U vezi Srbije i ove teme, reći ću samo kratko. Citat: Koča Popović: Bašibozluk, bagra i brabonjci ustali da obnove Dušanovo carstvo. Srbi su samo protiv onoga ko bi hteo da ih makar malo opameti, a oduševljeno kliču svakome ko ih još više zaglupljuje, unazađuje i unesrećuje. Žalosno je što su Srbi u civilizacijskom i kulturnom pogledu ostali na nivou na kome su bili pre sto godina. Oni nisu u sukobu sa svetom, već sa samima sobom, vraćajući se na šajkaču i opanak iz kojih su jedva izašli. Bio sam i ostao Srbin, ali nisam bolesna zadribanda i Srbenda. Takvi su izdali i osramotili srpski narod i narugali se njegovoj stvarnoj istoriji. Pretpostavljam da ti se neće dopasti, ali kako da ti to kažem, ovo je dijagnoza naše propasti. [ mb57 @ 05.02.2018. 19:12 ] @
Kada se uzme u obzir ekonomska snaga zemlje i plata, najskromniju platu ima premijer Japana.
[ Braxi @ 05.02.2018. 19:15 ] @
Putin je nesumnjivo velika licnost ruske istorije, ali bojim se da ce ako ovako nastavi da strmekne Rusiju. Dzabe mu onda sto ju je digao.
[ mb57 @ 05.02.2018. 19:37 ] @
@Bradzorf012,
Opširan ti je odgovor ali da probam da odgovorim. Niko ne brani opoziciji da zviždi, lupa u lonce, šerpe i ostalo. Jedini uslov je da se svako okupljanje, miting, prijavi zbog organizovanja istog. Moskva je ogroman grad sa ogromnim saobraćajem. Kada se isti prekine, stvaraju se neverovatne gužve koje prerastaju u haos. Opozicija upravo to i čini. Sa nenajavljenim mitinzima pokušavaju da izazovu haos a onda, očekuju da se to može pretvoriti u nekakvo rusko proleće ili, ne daj Bože, u Majdan kao u Ukrajini. Takođe, gej populacija ima sva prava (pravo na posao, školovanje, medicinsku zaštitu....) ali ne i na vrednosti koje su na zapadu in. Rusija ima svoj identitet i mentalitet i puno ulaže u vaspitanje dece i neće nikada dozvoliti da im se ukine otac i majka a nametne roditelj! Tu rasprave nema, bilo to nekome drago ili ne. U Rusiji nema lobija ili NVO-a koji može da mešetari i da tvrdi da je to sasvim benigno, ići ulicom i pred decom da se dva muškarca ljube i drpaju. Rusi su takođe veliki vernici i sama vera u tom igra veliku ulogu. Jednostavno, Rusija nije plodno tlo za takve "vrednosti" zapada i to ne trpa u ljudske slobode nego manipulacije. Putin nije izmenio ustav. Ustav se menja po zakonskoj proceduri u Ruskoj dumi. Zašto je duma isti izmenila, sigurno iz interesa koji im je tada bio važan. Po pitanju te podrške Putinu, od 80 i više %, da bi to shvatio, moraom bi bar kilogram soli da pojedeš na teritoriji Rusije pa tek onda krenuo u razmatranje, zašto. Istorija je Ruse naučila da zapadu ne treba verovati nego se okrenuti sebi i osloniti na sebe. Bez obzira na sva stradanja koje je ruski narod doživeo, kult majka Rusija je nešto sa čime se rađaju i umiru. On je gotovo dnk svakog Rusa. Zato, pisati o demoktratiji i slobodama u Rusiji kroz prizmu zapada nema nikakvog smisla. Zapad ne kapira Ruse a Rusi ne kapiraju zapad ali se za razliku od zapada ne mešaju u vrednosti tog zapada. Moglo bi se svesti na , ne diram te ne diraj me. Iz ličnog iskustva, mnogo je bolje imati Rusa za prijatelja nego za neprijatelja. Izbor je na svakome od vas, jasam moj davno napravio. [ Braxi @ 05.02.2018. 20:01 ] @
Citat: mb57: @Bradzorf012, Opširan ti je odgovor ali da probam da odgovorim. Niko ne brani opoziciji da zviždi, lupa u lonce, šerpe i ostalo. Jedini uslov je da se svako okupljanje, miting, prijavi zbog organizovanja istog. Moskva je ogroman grad sa ogromnim saobraćajem. Kada se isti prekine, stvaraju se neverovatne gužve koje prerastaju u haos. Opozicija upravo to i čini. Sa nenajavljenim mitinzima pokušavaju da izazovu haos a onda, očekuju da se to može pretvoriti u nekakvo rusko proleće ili, ne daj Bože, u Majdan kao u Ukrajini. Takođe, gej populacija ima sva prava (pravo na posao, školovanje, medicinsku zaštitu....) ali ne i na vrednosti koje su na zapadu in. Rusija ima svoj identitet i mentalitet i puno ulaže u vaspitanje dece i neće nikada dozvoliti da im se ukine otac i majka a nametne roditelj! Tu rasprave nema, bilo to nekome drago ili ne. U Rusiji nema lobija ili NVO-a koji može da mešetari i da tvrdi da je to sasvim benigno, ići ulicom i pred decom da se dva muškarca ljube i drpaju. Rusi su takođe veliki vernici i sama vera u tom igra veliku ulogu. Jednostavno, Rusija nije plodno tlo za takve "vrednosti" zapada i to ne trpa u ljudske slobode nego manipulacije. Putin nije izmenio ustav. Ustav se menja po zakonskoj proceduri u Ruskoj dumi. Zašto je duma isti izmenila, sigurno iz interesa koji im je tada bio važan. Po pitanju te podrške Putinu, od 80 i više %, da bi to shvatio, moraom bi bar kilogram soli da pojedeš na teritoriji Rusije pa tek onda krenuo u razmatranje, zašto. Istorija je Ruse naučila da zapadu ne treba verovati nego se okrenuti sebi i osloniti na sebe. Bez obzira na sva stradanja koje je ruski narod doživeo, kult majka Rusija je nešto sa čime se rađaju i umiru. On je gotovo dnk svakog Rusa. Zato, pisati o demoktratiji i slobodama u Rusiji kroz prizmu zapada nema nikakvog smisla. Zapad ne kapira Ruse a Rusi ne kapiraju zapad ali se za razliku od zapada ne mešaju u vrednosti tog zapada. Moglo bi se svesti na , ne diram te ne diraj me. Iz ličnog iskustva, mnogo je bolje imati Rusa za prijatelja nego za neprijatelja. Izbor je na svakome od vas, jasam moj davno napravio. kakav Majdan kad Putin ima 80% podrske ? haha, ajde, ajde [ mb57 @ 05.02.2018. 20:05 ] @
Ne mogu da verujem da postoje ljudi koji se svojski trude da budu diletanti.
Da li ti išta kapiraš? [ Braxi @ 05.02.2018. 20:12 ] @
Citat: mb57: Putin nije izmenio ustav. Ustav se menja po zakonskoj proceduri u Ruskoj dumi. Zašto je duma isti izmenila, sigurno iz interesa koji im je tada bio važan. Po pitanju te podrške Putinu, od 80 i više %, da bi to shvatio, moraom bi bar kilogram soli da pojedeš na teritoriji Rusije pa tek onda krenuo u razmatranje, zašto. Istorija je Ruse naučila da zapadu ne treba verovati nego se okrenuti sebi i osloniti na sebe. Bez obzira na sva stradanja koje je ruski narod doživeo, kult majka Rusija je nešto sa čime se rađaju i umiru. On je gotovo dnk svakog Rusa. Zato, pisati o demoktratiji i slobodama u Rusiji kroz prizmu zapada nema nikakvog smisla. Zapad ne kapira Ruse a Rusi ne kapiraju zapad ali se za razliku od zapada ne mešaju u vrednosti tog zapada. Moglo bi se svesti na , ne diram te ne diraj me. Iz ličnog iskustva, mnogo je bolje imati Rusa za prijatelja nego za neprijatelja. Izbor je na svakome od vas, jasam moj davno napravio. u ovom delu si svasta natruckao, ali krenimo redom... Kada je Putinu isticao drugi mandat onda su zatrazili misljenje ustavnog suda 21 clan (17 postavio Putin) i oni rekose da ne moze biti vise od dva uzastopna mandata. Posle su mandat povecali sa 4 na 6 godina. Rusija je valda jedina imperija na svetu koja zeli da izazove sazaljenje kod posmatraca. Rusi kazu da ih je napao Napoleon i Hitler, a ne govore koliko su oni napadali i osvajali. Da ne govorim samo sta su radili po istocnoj Evropi koju su vekovima terorisali ili Aziji gde je i Bog rekao laku noc, samo da vidimo sta su nama uradili 1948. Trazili su da ih bezpogovorno slusamo, a kad smo to odbili oni su nas izbacili iz IB-a ! Posle kad je zapad krenuo da nas pomaze oni su izmislili pricu da smo mi njih izdali. Zamisli. Znaci mi smo njih izdali jer nismo hteli bezpogovorno da ih slusamo. "Demokratija kroz prizmu zapada." ajde mb57 najpre se dogovori sam sa sobom jel u Rusiji ima ili nema demokratije ili vi pak diktaturu zovete demokratija, ali to na zapadu niko ne razume ??? Gle, ti kazes Rusi imaju svoje vidjenje drzave i demokratije. OK. Rusi misle da su pametni sto neguju kult vodje a Amerikanci Ebglezi Svajcarci Francuzi i dr su glupi sto imaju demokratiju. A sto ne kazes koliko je puta propala ruska drzava ? Najpre carevina, pa zatim Staljinova pod Hitlerom (u prvim godinama rata), pa komunisticka pod Gorbacovim, tranziciona pod Jeljcinom... Mislis da ce biti drukcije sa ovom Putinovom ? [ mb57 @ 05.02.2018. 20:17 ] @
"Rusi kazu da ih je napao Napoleon i Hitler..."
Da li je moguće da neko ko je završio i osnovnu školu i to sa prosekom 2 može napisati ovako nešto? Znači, Rusi kažu a u stvarnosti toga nije bilo. Lažu? I kako onda tebe tretirati kao normalnog? [ Braxi @ 05.02.2018. 20:21 ] @
nemoj da se pravis lud, nego odgovori na postavljena pitanja.
ako mozes, ahahahaha... [ plus_minus @ 05.02.2018. 21:06 ] @
Ne znam kakav bi svet bio bez amerikanijanaca, ali znam da bi svet bio savršen bez federalnih rezervi, pentagona, bele kuće, CIA-a, FBI-a, (NSA je cool :p ) wall street-a, amerikanijanske vlade i vašingtona. Lično smatram da je average-joe muka namučena i protiv takvih nemam ama baš ništa. Ima jedno 6-7000 hiljada dolara više od mene svakog meseca, to stoji, ali nije zato muka namučena .. Odnosi se i na one amerikanijance koji idu na "holocaust" žurke (nemaju pojma šta je zapravo holocaust) ako im skreneš pažnju da se održava negde, na tom i tom delu plaže ...
[ Braxi @ 05.02.2018. 21:15 ] @
Citat: plus_minus: Ne znam kakav bi svet bio bez amerikanijanaca, ali znam da bi svet bio savršen bez federalnih rezervi, pentagona, bele kuće, CIA-a, FBI-a, (NSA je cool :p ) wall street-a, amerikanijanske vlade i vašingtona. Lično smatram da je average-joe muka namučena i protiv takvih nemam ama baš ništa. Ima jedno 6-7000 hiljada dolara više od mene svakog meseca, to stoji, ali nije zato muka namučena .. Odnosi se i na one amerikanijance koji idu na "holocaust" žurke (nemaju pojma šta je zapravo holocaust) ako im skreneš pažnju da se održava negde, na tom i tom delu plaže ... a kako ti se svidjaju gulazi i rad u kineskim fabrikama ? [ plus_minus @ 05.02.2018. 21:18 ] @
Ako si mislio na gulaš (sa sojom (sulaš)), super je, kad ga ja spremim.
Kako se tebi dopada Končita Vurst? Jel' bi `je` hebo? Ja ne. Sve i da se obrije, jok. [ Ivan Dimkovic @ 05.02.2018. 21:21 ] @
Citat: plus_minus Ima jedno 6-7000 hiljada dolara više od mene svakog meseca, to stoji Average Joe? 6-7 hiljada dolara vise od tebe svakog meseca? Mozda ako taj tvoj Joe pljacka nesto ili ti pravis dugove od nekoliko soma :-) [ plus_minus @ 05.02.2018. 21:36 ] @
@Ivan
Ma, kod mene je sve dok ovako diskutujem, otprilike. Neka ima i samo 3000 dolara više ... Ali, ruku na srce, truck driver, može da ima toliko, pa i više, bez pardona. I taj takav je average Joe. [ Boris Tadić @ 05.02.2018. 21:50 ] @
Pa ti ako ne možeš u Beogradu sa fontanom da izađeš na bar 1500$, znači obesi se sine ;)
[ plus_minus @ 05.02.2018. 21:52 ] @
Ona stvar me zabole za bg i koliko zarađuju. Zašto? Zato. Zašto zato? Zato što tako treba. :)
[ plus_minus @ 05.02.2018. 21:58 ] @
Zapravo, zabole me i za prosečnog džoa.
Više me kopka da li je braxy u srodstvu sa natašom kandić i sonjom biserko. Mislim da bi to bila ljubav na prvi prezir, ako nisu u srodstvu i da se sretnu a da se nisu upoznali pre toga. Šta kažeš ti braxi na to .. ? [ Lavlja_Jazbina @ 05.02.2018. 22:33 ] @
Da nema amerikanaca ne bi bilo ni istorije na zemaljskoj kugli posto oni datiraju od.....da,momenat javljaju mi iz studija , Kolumbo,da.Aha.
Pa i da je i Kolumbo uzet za primer,to je 500 godina a znamo da su bizoni mladji i to ispade 300 godina istorije. Stvarno impozantno nema sta.Potseti me na Srbina koji je cekao put 300 godina. [ payge @ 05.02.2018. 22:36 ] @
Za Laku Noc svima,
Mr. Oliver Stone: [ nemamstan @ 05.02.2018. 23:11 ] @
Citat: Braxi Citat: plus_minus: ... a kako ti se svidjaju gulazi i rad u kineskim fabrikama ? Šta fali modernoj kineskoj industriji? Ko se tamo zaposli neće ga mučiti nostalgija za srbijanskim buvljacima. [ plus_minus @ 06.02.2018. 07:11 ] @
Evo ...
Šta reći .. ? [ Braxi @ 06.02.2018. 08:11 ] @
zanimljivo kako svi obozavaoci Rusije i Kine, licemerni oboizavaoci jer nikada ne bi prihvatili da zive u tom sistemu, vide trn u oku Amerike, a ne vide balvan u oku Rusije i Kine.
[ plus_minus @ 06.02.2018. 08:25 ] @
A zar nisu baš ti tvoji amerikanijanci, upravo oni koji vide sve ostale države kao trnje u njihovim očima ..? Kao da je ceo svet njihov poligon za satanističko izdrkavanje.
To vide svi, pa čak i većina pro-amerikanijanski orjentisanih, verovao ili ne. Zapravo, samo jedna, sitna, zaboravljena i nikome potrebna grupa dvonožaca vidi ujka sema kao - cool. Koka kola. Pepsi. EmtiVi. Madona. Ford heboteee... American dream. Mora bre da spavaš da bi to doživeo. Zato se i kategoriše kao `san`. [ belbeg @ 06.02.2018. 08:55 ] @
Citat: Braxi: zanimljivo kako svi obozavaoci Rusije i Kine, licemerni oboizavaoci jer nikada ne bi prihvatili da zive u tom sistemu, vide trn u oku Amerike, a ne vide balvan u oku Rusije i Kine. Braxi, ja sam jedan od retkih članova foruma koji te razume i čak daje podršku ali ovog puta moram da ti kažem da nisi u pravu. Zašto uporno gledaš crno belo ili se držiš komunističke doktrine, ko nije sa nama taj je protiv nas. Nisam video ni jedan post u kome bilo ko piše da obožava Rusiju a još manje Kinu. Ako je neko zatreskan u neku zemlju i to do slepila, onda se to može reći za tebe i tvoju ljubav prema USA. Nemora bilo ko ni voleti ni ne voleti a najmanje mrzeti da bi izneo svoj stav. Ako ti imaš pravo ne da voliš USA nego da ih obožavaš kao svetinju, dozvoli da ih drugi ne da nevole nego da kažu žta im se ne sviđa u postupcima te zemlje. Kada smo i kod te ljubavi, vole se roditelji, žena, deca, prijatelji a ne državno uređenje i politika. Probaj i ti da promeniš nešto u svom životu. Evo, nađi neku devojku pa probaj. Ako ti ne ide, nađi dečka, mačku, psa....i kada se stabilizuješ, daj da nastavimo pisanje bez strasti a sa više argumenata koji će svima biti jasni. [ bojan_bozovic @ 06.02.2018. 09:12 ] @
@belbeg
Moze da se voli i drzavno uredjenje i politika, otkud ti da je suprotno? [ belbeg @ 06.02.2018. 09:25 ] @
Citat: Ok, danas se može sve, pa čak i venčati sa kućnim ljubimcima ili drvetom. [ bojan_bozovic @ 06.02.2018. 09:33 ] @
Cekaj belbeg, ne moze da se mrzi recimo fasizam, i voli neko drugo drzavno uredjenje?
[ Braxi @ 06.02.2018. 11:03 ] @
kako se zove drustveno uredjenje u Rusiji: idolopoklonizam ?
Jeee, koji kult licnosti od strane ovih ovde da ih sad ne nabrajam. Botovi ruski idu po svim forumima i ne daju da se pisne protiv Putina i jos zatrpavaju masu antiamerickom propagandom. Time samo otezavate polozaj nase zemlje, jer verujte, mali narod kao mi sigurno ne zeli da ima za neprijatelja Ameriku. Nazalost ruski placenici i botovi prodali bi ruskom interesu zemlju za par sendvica i to je jedina istina. --------------- posto im znam citav repertoar, evo da im ustedim repliku: sad ce oni da krenu da vicu ti si strani placeNIK, ti obozavas Ameriku koja nas je bombardovala itd itd... ! Realnost ih medjutim demantuje. Kada bi Rusija imala neki veliki ekonomsko odbrambeni savez i kada bi on bio na nasim granicama u BG RO ili HU ja bih rekao, pa znate sta, idite sa Rusima kad ste toliko zapeli. Sta mi vidimo danas ? Zemlju opkoljenu EU i NATO gde je Rusija sad dosla i pokusava da se ubaci. EJJJJ ! NATO u Estoniji, a Rusi se izivljavaju ovde nad Srbijom i CG. Mislim, pricajte sta hocete, ali iz aviona se vidi da pokusavaju samo da mesetare. Rusi namerno blokiraju i opstruiraju put Srbije u EU i opet prave debilijanu od ove zemlje i naroda kao i 90tih sto je bilo. A Kosovo ne mozemo vratiti pa ne mozemo. Kad su 90% tamo Siptari. I to je cela istina. [ nemamstan @ 06.02.2018. 11:20 ] @
Citat: belbeg Zašto uporno gledaš crno belo ili se držiš komunističke doktrine, ko nije sa nama taj je protiv nas. Malo si pobrkao lončiče, to nije komunistička doktrina nego "ubićemo zaklaćemo ko sa nama neće" je četnička himna. Informiši se o komunističkoj doktrini pa ćeš videti da je komunistička doktrina postala sastavni deo doktrina najrazvijenijih kapitalističkih država Citat: napredan poreski sistem, centralizacija kredita u bankama države i javno školovanje za svu decu u državnim školama i ukidanje dečjeg rada. o čemu Rusi i Kinezi i njihovi zarobljenici sanjaju. [ plus_minus @ 06.02.2018. 11:23 ] @
@braxi
Ja sam na osnovu svega do sad, vezano za tebe, zaključio isto što i "Infected Rain". Pazi, ova stvar je posvećena profilima kao ti. Jako je prosto da se razume, ali ako ti engleski ne ide od ruke, zamoli nekog da ti prevede šta peva. Čak šta više, spot i akcija u istom je veoma, veoma - rečita, živopisna. Ne očekujem da će pesma da te pogodi, ali moguće je. Nisu ni rusi, ni amerikanijanci nego rumuni ako sam dobro upućen. Bar ova što peva, jeste rumunka. Uživaj braxy. [ Boris Tadić @ 06.02.2018. 12:27 ] @
Ruski McDolanc je imao pivo u ponudi.
[ Braxi @ 06.02.2018. 12:52 ] @
kvas !
[ HoT_Steppa @ 06.02.2018. 13:56 ] @
Citat: Braxi: zanimljivo kako svi obozavaoci Rusije i Kine, licemerni oboizavaoci jer nikada ne bi prihvatili da zive u tom sistemu, vide trn u oku Amerike, a ne vide balvan u oku Rusije i Kine. Još si tu? Idi radi nešto. Poseti Moskvu za promenu. [ Steve Lonmo @ 06.02.2018. 13:58 ] @
Ne smem ni da pomislim na šta bi svet ličio bez koka-kole, hamburgera i Mikija Mausa.
[ anon70939 @ 06.02.2018. 14:01 ] @
Htedoh i ja to da kazem. Da nema Amerikanaca, ja bih umro bez kokakole
[ Steve Lonmo @ 06.02.2018. 14:04 ] @
Citat: Braxi: Ili kad su dojahali 1944 u BG postavili Tita prognali monarhiste i pobili 70,000 ljudi ? Crvena armija je prešla Dunav krajem septembra '44. Južnije od Zapadne Morave skoro nisu ni zalazili. Beograd je oslobođen 20. oktobra, a već 29. oktobra su bili na Budimpešti. (Uzgred, Mađari su duže branili Budimpeštu, nego Nemci Berlin.) Protutnjali su ovuda za mesec dana. Nisu "pobili 70,000 ljudi", već možda 30-ak hiljada nemačkih i mađarskih fašista. "Monarhiste" nisu dirali, niti su ih oni zanimali. Njih je zanimao Berlin... Štaviše, Staljinu bi na čelu Jugoslavije svakako više odgovarale one krpe iz Londona, koje bi kao kučići izvršavali sve ono što bi se on sa Englezima i Amerima dogovorio, nego Tito koji će da pravi suverenu državu, balkanske konfederacije, nesvrstane i kojekakve druge probleme. Tita nisu postavili Sovjeti, on se postavio sam. Snagom svoga oružja. Crvena armija nije prognala "monarhiste", već su oni, koji su bežali, bežali u nemačkim cokulama zajedno sa Nemcima, jer su bili sise. Koljači žena, dece, staraca i ranjenika, pljačkaši koji se tokom rata nisu upuštali ni u kakvu pravu borbu. Ono što je bilo časno i pošteno u tom pokretu - sve je prešlo u partizane. Sa pijanim Dražom je u Bosnu prešlo 3.000 ljudi. To ti je čitava "četnička Srbija u kojoj do '44. nikada nije bilo komunista". [ plus_minus @ 06.02.2018. 14:34 ] @
Citat: Boris Tadić: Ruski McDolanc je imao pivo u ponudi. I služile su ga impozantno dobre i zdrave čkepi sa iskrenim osmehom, bez i jedne, jedine bakterije na sebi. [ Lavlja_Jazbina @ 06.02.2018. 15:18 ] @
Citat: AMERIKA U ŠOKU! DENZEL VAŠINGTON OBELODANIO PAKLENI PLAN KLINTONOVIH: Tramp je sprečio rat s Rusijom i uvođenje orvelovske države! Citat: Izborna pobeda Donalda Trampa spasila je SAD od uspostavljanja "orvelovske policijske države" u rukama demokrata koji bi koristili istu autoritarnu taktiku "stalno iznova" da "zaobiđu volju naroda u budućim izborima," tvrdi glumac Denzel Vašington. LoŠo,jako loŠo. Citat: "Da su demokrate pobedile na izborima, nikada ne bi saznali da su koristili lažne dokumente kako bi dobili naloge za špijuniranje američkih građana i političkih protivnika. To nikada nećemo znati. Razmislite o tome! ", navodno je izjavio Vašington medijima u Njujorku. "Oni imaju alat koji će koristiti iznova i iznova da zaobiđu volju naroda u budućim izborima", rekao je Vašington, koji je upravo bio nominovan za Oskara za film "Roman J. Izrael." Na pitanje novinara da li je veruje u istinitost memoranduma koji je objavio Kongres je u petak on kaže: "Da, pouzdan je Ne moramo da znamo sve detalje da bi ukapirali o čemu se radi". "Znamo da je postojao nalog da se špijunira član Trampovog tima, a nalog je izdat na osnovu medijskih izveštaja. Mediji su sve napisali na osnovu informacija dobijenih od strane opozicione istraživačke kompanije koju plaćaju demokrate i Hilari Klinton", kaže Vašington. "Vi ne možete da vidite šta nije u redu s ovim? Šalite se ", prokomentarisao je on i dodao:" Pa, pretpostavljam da ste novinari. Koliko novinara se suprostavilo kampanji Hilari Klinton? " Obraćajući se novinarima lično, Vašington ih je kritikovao da odbijaju da objave kritičko mišljenje o Demokratskoj stranci. "Odrastao sam kao demokrata. Shvatam. Znam da ima puno ljudi koji mrze Trampa sa prilično energije", ističe Vašington. "Ali moraš da shvatiš da smo izbegli metak kada je Klintonova izgubila. Čak i više od metka. Izbegli smo rat sa Rusijom i izbegli smo stvaranje Orvelovske policijske države", rekao je glumac. Yournewswire Denzele Srbine [ mb57 @ 06.02.2018. 16:25 ] @
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