The cause of the crash is not clear. A French minister said faults were found on the plane during a check in 2007.

"The A310 in question was inspected in 2007 by the DGAC [French transport authorities] and they noticed a certain number of faults. Since then the plane had not returned to France," Transport Minister Dominique Bussereau was quoted as telling French TV.

"The company was not on the black list but was subject to stricter checks on our part, and was due to be interviewed shortly by the European Union's safety committee."

Dobro, ali ima price oko prevoza bilo cime, pa i auto pesice. Eto recimo to oko prelaska ulice, ama jeste 100% sigurno ako sacekas lepo da nema nikoga na vidiku niti se pa cuje da se neki ludak priblizava prebrzo. Evo, ja se u zivotu nisam vozio sa delijama koji voze kao ludi (ulecu u makazice, preticu svakoga, voze po 200...) , a i sam kad sam vozio, uvek sam vozio postujucu sva ogranicenja brzine, uvek sam vezivao pojaseve, nikad nisam vozio nocu (osim po gradu, a i to kad moram) itd itd. Od kad je tamo osamdesetih bila ona nesreca kad su se sudarili autobus koji se vracao sa ekskurzije (mislim u Niš) i neki kamion, pa je kamion odneo skoro celu levu stranu (gde sedi vozac) autobusa, nikad vise nisam seo na levu stranu medjugradskog autobusa itd itd. U stvari, nikad nisam svesno radio nista sto moze fizicki da ugrozi moju egzistenciju, osim jednom mrtav pijan kad sam sedeo na prozoru 11 sprata i klatario se da bi nervirao neke, ali to je bilo mnogo odavno, i sto me vise puta udarala struja kad sam nesto popravljao a mrzelo me da iskljucujem uredjaje, ali to vise ne radim, nit sam pa hteo da imam veze sa onima koji mogu fizicki da me ugroze, kao sto su vec pomenuti suludi vozaci koji bi mene da voze. Nije to nikakav strah, niti paranoja, samo predostroznost. Necu bre da si turam uzicu na žar i gotovo, posebno necu u tudje ruke da je turam, ili pa u "ruke" neke tamo mehanicke skalamerije, ukljucujuci i automobile. Koje mogu da koristim, ali bez silovanja, klaj klaj. Kornjaca je pobedila zeca, to se zna. Ko hoce slobodno neka to radi, neka ima poverenje u bilo koju masinu, ja necu i tacka, a necu sa razlogom. Zato sto znam kako je lako da se iznenada i na izgled bez ikakvog razloga pokvari bilo koja od tih masinerija, ako nista drugo, zbog zamora materijala. I ona velika zeleznicka nesreca koja je bila relativno skoro u Nemackoj se desila iz istog razloga - mudraci pravili tocak za vagone sa slojem gume izmedju dva koncentricna sloja celika, kao da ublazi vibracije, pa se spoljni celicni prsten posle nekog vremena raspao zbog zamora materijala i ode sve u trandaliju. Posle su to izbacili pa vratili obicne masivne celicne tockove kakvi su bili 250 godina.

Znaci, mogu oni da me ubedjuju jos 50 godina kako je avionski prevoz statisticki najbezbedniji, necu be, a ako se i resim da idem negde gde je mnogo daleko idem brodom i tacka. I nosim svoj camac za spasavanje i to sto treba. I letim samo motornim zmajem ili balonom uzivanja radi, isto ako me ne mrzi.

Miroslav Jeftić: Ako ćeš te streljati, šta tek onda sa menadžerima iz industrije duvana, lekova, hrane, pića, automobila... dodati po želji.

EmilijaV: @Lesli

Nemoj opet da pocinjes, molim te!

vladd
I ove erbasove su sklepali na brzinu, jurcali neke rokove, sikanirali inzenjere, inzenjeri otkacili bezbednst i kreativnost kao usporavajuci faktor, i "ispostovali rokove"...

France 'banned Yemen crash plane'

A Yemeni airline which crashed into the Indian Ocean was banned from France because of "irregularities", France's transport minister has said.

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Most had flown on a different Yemenia aircraft from Paris or Marseille before boarding flight IY626 in Sanaa, the capital of Yemen.

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In Paris, Mr Bussereau told legislators that the Yemenia Airbus 310 which crashed was not permitted to fly into France, and raised concerns about the transfer of passengers from a plane classed as safe to one which crashed into the ocean.

"A few years ago, we banned this plane from national territory because we believed it presented a certain number of irregularities in its technical equipment," Mr Bussereau told parliament.

"The question we are asking... is whether you can collect people in a normal way on French territory and then put them in a plane that does not ensure their security. We do not want this to happen again."

However, a spokesman for the airline said poor weather was more likely to have been a factor in the crash than the condition of the plane.

The crash prompted the European Union to highlight its own concerns about Yemenia's safety record, proposing a world blacklist of those carriers deemed unsafe.

The EU already has its own list, and its transport commissioner, Antonio Tajani, said such a list would be a "safety guarantee for all".

Another EU official told Reuters news agency there were concerns about the airline's "incomplete reporting procedure and incomplete follow-up" following 2007 tests on the aircraft that crashed, but that its record was improving.

A Yemeni airline which crashed into the Indian Ocean was banned from France because of "irregularities", France's transport minister has said.

Narrator: A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.

Business woman on plane: Are there a lot of these kinds of accidents?
Narrator: You wouldn't believe.

Business woman on plane: Which car company do you work for?
Narrator: A major one.

a1200
Hm, podseti me na film Fight Club... (zameniti kola sa avionom)

Uh, dobro je... propisi su toliko strogi, da recimo, avio kompanijama kojima je zabranjeno letenje u Francuskoj, zbog "neregularnosti", njihova maticna drzava/druge drzave isto moraju da zabrane letenje... Izgleda da nije tako.

Ivan Dimkovic: Vrlo hrabra tvrdnja - hoces da kazes da Airbus pravi nebezbedne avione zbog rokova?

Voleo bih da se to potkrepi nekim konkretnim dokazima, sta je tacno nebezbedno i na kojem Airbus avionu?

Zar mislis da je igrarija sto krljaju automobile u kres testu. Zar nisu mogli, uz postojanje detaljne konstrukcije i merljive parametre, da naprave simulaciju...Jok, nema boga, mora da se skrlja, i naizgled slicna vozila, zavareni spoj levo ili desno, parce nepotrebnog lima..izokrenu situaciju za 180 stepeni..

Prema pisanju londonskog "Tajmsa", moguće je da će BEA kao "presudni faktor" nesreće na letu AF-447 navesti olujno vreme, ali "glavni problem", o kome se do sada najviše govorilo i koji je u smrt odveo 228 putnika i članova posade, najverovatnije jeste pogrešno očitavanje na senzorima za merenje brzine.

Već duže vreme se znalo da su avioni A-330 i A-340 imali određenih problema sa Pitoovim cevima, pa čudi zašto Evropska agencija za vazduhoplovnu bezbednost nije preduzela odgovarajuće mere pre nego što se dogodila nesreća 1. juna.

"Er Frans" nije želeo da čeka nalaze zvanične istrage, pa je uprava kompanije nakon protesta unije pilota odlučila da ugradi nove senzore za merenje brzine na svojim dugolinijskim avionima. Slično je postupio i američki avio-prevoznik "Nortvest erlajns", koji je nakon navodnih problema sa očitavanjem brzine tokom leta za Tokio 26. juna odlučio da zameni Pitoove cevi na avionima "erbas A-330". Američki odbor za bezbednost saobraćaja naredio je da se istraži incident na pomenutom letu za Tokio, kao i onaj u maju kada je na letu iz Sao Paula za Majami letelica brazilske avio-kompanije TAM imala probleme sa gubitkom visine.

"Erbas" je prvi put ukazao na moguće probleme sa senzorima još 1994. godine i avio-prevoznicima je dosad predlagana njihova zamena, ali su naredbodavne mere izostale. Zato nije isključeno da bi rezultati francuske istrage mogli poslužiti kao povod nadležnim nacionalnim i međunarodnim telima za vazduhoplovnu bezbednost da narede zamenu spornih avionskih delova. Ishod bi mogao biti privremena zabrana saobraćaja za gotovo hiljadu dugolinijaša vodećeg svetskog proizvođača.

a1200
Ostra neka pravila i testovi - ili ti, nebrinite puska je zakocena :)

The National Transportation Safety Board on Thursday identified separate malfunctions on two different airlines that ended with safe landings over the past few weeks. They appear to describe the same type of malfunction -- triggering a loss of autopilot and automatic-throttle -- that investigators believe occurred on the Air France A330 shortly before it crashed May 31 en route from Rio de Janeiro to Paris in stormy weather.

Such airspeed issues aren't enough to bring down a jetliner. Investigators in the Air France crash suspect a combination of turbulent weather, possible computer glitches, pilot actions and perhaps other factors combined to put the jet into a fatal dive.

The safety board's disclosure partly reflects the fact that the A330's external speed-measuring devices -- called pitot tubes -- are under stepped-up scrutiny. The possibility of such malfunctions has been widely recognized and documented for many years, with Airbus and airlines developing backup procedures to safely fly aircraft.

Such airspeed issues aren't enough to bring down a jetliner.

The National Transportation Safety Board on Thursday identified separate malfunctions on two different airlines that ended with safe landings over the past few weeks. They appear to describe the same type of malfunction -- triggering a loss of autopilot and automatic-throttle -- that investigators believe occurred on the Air France A330 shortly before it crashed May 31 en route from Rio de Janeiro to Paris in stormy weather.

But the NTSB's announcement underscores how such malfunctions, which can feed conflicting data to a plane's computerized controls, can result in more complex system failures and force pilots to fly without the usual cockpit automation. In one recent incident, the malfunction created a cascade of events that knocked out some primary flight-control instruments for as long as five minutes.

Tako je, sve je uredu... broj zrtava je pod kontrolom.

French investigators trying to find out why an Air France plane crashed in the Atlantic say they believe it broke up on contact with water, not in the air.

Alain Bouillard, of the BEA accident investigation agency, said the plane probably hit the water "in flying position with a strong acceleration".

He said that faulty speed sensors, which were suspected of being behind the crash, had been "a factor but not the cause".

Mr Bouillard also said the search for the Airbus A330's black box data recorders would be extended to 10 June.

Search teams have recovered 51 bodies from the ocean but said last month that finding any more remains was "impossible".